no sound hardy kernel 2.6.27.11-generic
Affects | Status | Importance | Assigned to | Milestone | |
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linux (Ubuntu) |
Fix Released
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Critical
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Ben Collins | ||
linux-meta (Ubuntu) |
Invalid
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Undecided
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Unassigned | ||
linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu) |
Invalid
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Critical
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Unassigned |
Bug Description
Binary package hint: linux-image-
updated from kernel 2.6.24-11 to 2.6.24-12 brakes all sound! boot with the previous kernel, sound works!
The kernel is unable to insert any correctly compiled and installed alsa driver module. As a result, sound controls says there's no device to configure!
any Ubuntu Hardy updated... Thanks
Changed in linux: | |
status: | New → Confirmed |
Brian Curtis (bcurtiswx) wrote : | #1 |
Christian Schürer-Waldheim (quincunx) wrote : | #2 |
I can confirm this problem. Sound with kernel 2.6.24-11-generic works, but it doesn't work in kernel 2.6.24-12-generic any more.
dmesg gives the following error messages regarding the modules for the sound card:
[ 41.323834] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 41.323860] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 41.323885] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 41.323909] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 41.323939] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 41.323967] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printk
[ 41.323991] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 41.324017] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 41.324041] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_card_file_add
[ 41.324072] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[ 41.324096] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_major
[ 41.324130] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 41.324156] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[ 41.324189] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 41.324220] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_lookup_
[ 41.324247] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_lookup_
[ 41.324272] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 41.324298] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_card_
[ 41.324322] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 41.355939] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 41.355966] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 41.355995] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 41.356045] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printk
[ 41.356077] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[ 41.356115] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_ecards_limit
[ 41.356144] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_oss_
[ 41.356168] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 41.356198] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[ 41.356259] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_register_
...
[ 41.502891] snd: Unknown symbol unregister_
[ 41.502981] snd: Unknown symbol register_
[ 41.503267] snd: Unknown symbol sound_class
...
[ 41.504126] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 41.504152] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 41.504181] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 41.504231] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printk
[ 41.504264] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[ 41.504302] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_ecards_limit
[ 41.504331] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_oss_
[ 41.504356] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 41.504386] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[ 41.504447] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 41.520860] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 41.520888] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 41.520913] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 41.520961] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_notify
[ 41.520994] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_interrupt
[ 41.521018] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 41.521043...
Changed in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24: | |
status: | New → Confirmed |
iobelisk (iobelix) wrote : | #3 |
hi, just wanted to add: same problem here. sound is pretty broke with 2.6.24.12, worked beautifully with *.11 though.
NilsE (nekberg) wrote : | #4 |
Just updated from -11 to -12 and have the same problem.
lod (altoas) wrote : | #5 |
my laptop is MSI ER710, and got no sound with 2.6.24-12, part of the dmesg:
[ 33.203190] ALSA /build/
exploder (dcosner) wrote : | #6 |
I can confirm the bug also. VIA Vinal 97 sound will not work with the 2.6.24-12 kernel.
Thomas Heidrich (gnuheidix) wrote : | #7 |
I'm having the same problem on my Acer Extensa 5220.
dentaku65 (dentaku65) wrote : | #8 |
2.6.24-12-386 kernel update kills my sound too
Changed in linux: | |
status: | Confirmed → Invalid |
Changed in linux-meta: | |
status: | New → Invalid |
pheeror (pheeror) wrote : | #9 |
same here ;-)
Vojta Grec (vojtagrec) wrote : | #10 |
Flávio Martins (flavioxmartins) wrote : | #11 |
This seems to be a Beta blocker.
Milestoning and setting Critical priority.
Changed in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24: | |
importance: | Undecided → Critical |
milestone: | none → ubuntu-8.04-beta |
Pedro Fragoso (ember) wrote : | #12 |
SND_PROCFS and SND_INTEL8 is missing here too.
Maletherin (jason-rpg-lore) wrote : | #13 |
Same here. My soundblaster isn't noticed. Oddly it works when I switch back a kernel.
Dana_r (danarea) wrote : | #14 |
Same here for upgrade from 2.6.24-11 to 2.6.24-12. I have the HDA Intel controller, which was also had a patch in the last recent alsa update.
lscpi output:
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMU (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1)
00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2)
00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:08.1 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7900 GS] (rev a1)
Dana_r (danarea) wrote : | #15 |
Also, modprobe output:
FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd
WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd_pcm
FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/
darx (rabidphage) wrote : | #16 |
Same here Acer aspire 1652 wlmi
lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d4)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 04)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
06:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
06:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
06:08.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 02)
lsmod
Module Size Used by
arc4 2944 2
ecb 4480 2
blkcipher 8324 1 ecb
ieee80211_crypt_wep 6272 1
af_packet 23812 4
binfmt_misc 12808 1
radeon 124192 2
drm 82452 3 radeon
nfsd 228848 13
auth_rpcgss 43424 1 nfsd
exportfs 6016 1 nfsd
ipv6 267780 10
speedstep_centrino 9152 0
cpufreq_ondemand 9740 1
cpufreq_
cpufreq_stats 7104 0
freq_table 5536 3 speedstep_
cpufreq_userspace 5284 0
cpufreq_powersave 2688 0
sbs 15112 0
sbshc 7680 1 sbs
bay 6912 0
dock 11280 1 bay
nfs 262540 0
lockd 67720 3 nfsd,nfs
nfs_acl 4608 2 nfsd,nfs
sunrpc 185884 11 nfsd,auth_
iptable_filter 3840 0
ip_tables 14820 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 16132 1 ip_tables
parport_pc 36260 0
lp 12...
mattismyname (mattismyname) wrote : | #17 |
- Diffs between 2.6.24-11 and -12 .config files Edit (5.5 KiB, text/plain)
There are massive diffs between the -11 .config and the -12 .config (see attached diff). Most notable, a big chunk of sound stuff is gone.
[code]tkdiff /usr/src/
Vince N (libertyshadow) wrote : | #18 |
Confirmed on SigmaTel, lost sound one update from 2.6.24-11 to 2.6.24-12
cestuila (cestuila) wrote : | #19 |
Same thing here...no sound with hda-intel (xfx 780i mobo)
Jonas Thorell (jthorell) wrote : | #20 |
Bug report #200354 is also a duplicate (unfortunately filed by me). I can still boot into -11, but for some reason I have been unable to figure out dcopserver is broken when booting into the earlier kernel. That is, I either get sound or functional KDE 3.x apps but not both.
Supreme1012 (bs101286) wrote : | #21 |
sound works when booting into -11. sound doesnt work at all when in -12. says problem with volume control gstreamer.
heres a link to my mobo if that info helps.
http://
no extra sound cards
Jery Wang (jery-wang2002) wrote : | #22 |
same here, no sound after upgrading to 2.6.24-12 - i386 kernel
Dell Inspiron 1520
HDA Intel
rrr0321 (rrroszak) wrote : | #23 |
Same here, sound with 11 worked fine, Dell Dimension E521, Nvidia sound card.
lsmod
Module Size Used by
af_packet 23812 2
binfmt_misc 12808 1
ipv6 267780 14
tun 12672 0
ppdev 10372 0
powernow_k8 16704 0
cpufreq_
cpufreq_ondemand 9740 1
cpufreq_userspace 5284 0
cpufreq_stats 7104 0
freq_table 5536 3 powernow_
cpufreq_powersave 2688 0
ac 6916 0
sbs 15112 0
sbshc 7680 1 sbs
container 5632 0
video 20112 0
output 4736 1 video
dock 11280 0
battery 14212 0
xt_limit 3584 3
ipt_addrtype 2816 3
xt_state 3328 2
xt_tcpudp 4096 1
ipt_LOG 7296 4
nf_conntrack_ipv4 19080 5
xt_conntrack 3712 3
nf_nat_irc 3712 0
nf_conntrack_irc 7576 1 nf_nat_irc
nf_nat_ftp 4352 0
nf_nat 20396 2 nf_nat_
nf_conntrack_ftp 10144 1 nf_nat_ftp
nf_conntrack 66752 8 xt_state,
iptable_filter 3840 1
ip_tables 14820 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 16132 7 xt_limit,
parport_pc 36260 0
lp 12324 0
parport 37832 3 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
psmouse 40336 0
serio_raw 7940 0
nvidia 7825408 34
button 9232 0
snd_page_alloc 11400 0
shpchp 34452 0
evdev 13056 3
k8temp 6656 0
i2c_nforce2 7680 0
i2c_core 24832 2 nvidia,i2c_nforce2
dcdbas 9504 0
pci_hotplug 30880 1 shpchp
agpgart 34760 1 nvidia
pcspkr 4224 0
ext3 136712 1
jbd 48404 1 ext3
mbcache 9600 1 ext3
sg 36880 0
sr_mod 17956 0
cdrom 37408 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 30720 4
ata_generic 8324 0
usbhid 31872 0
hid 38784 1 usbhid
sata_nv 27528 3
b44 28432 0
pata_acpi 8320 0
ssb 32772 1 b44
mii 6400 1 b44
ehci_hcd 37516 0
ohci_hcd 25348 0
libata 159344 3 ata_generic,
scsi_mod 151436 4 sg,sr_mod,
usbcore 146028 4 usbhid,
thermal 16796 0
processor 36872 2 powernow_k8,thermal
fan 5636 0
fuse 50580 3
sonmez (sonmezsahut) wrote : | #24 |
I can confirm That i am having the same problem on system76 Daru2.
Here is the output of lspci
$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Contoller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
01:04.0 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc ENE PCI Memory Stick Card Reader Controller
01:04.1 SD Host controller: ENE Technology Inc ENE PCI SmartMedia / xD Card Reader Controller
01:04.2 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc Unknown device 0720
01:04.3 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc ENE PCI Secure Digital / MMC Card Reader Controller
02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 01)
Mr.UNOwen (jerry-comp) wrote : | #25 |
Same here after running update manager. Hope this is fixed soon.
Greg Grossmeier (greg.grossmeier) wrote : | #26 |
As we all can see by the status of this bug at the top of the page, this is a well confirmed bug and does not need any more people to reply with simple confirmations.
Please, do not post simple confirmation messages, this only spams the list.
But, if you feel your information would be beneficial for solving this problem quicker, by all means, post it.
moa3333 (moa3333) wrote : | #27 |
same on amd64:
more info:
# modprobe snd-usb-audio
FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd
WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd
WARNING: Error inserting snd_seq_device (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error inserting snd_rawmidi (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd_rawmidi
WARNING: Error inserting snd_usb_lib (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd
WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/
WARNING: Error running install command for snd_pcm
FATAL: Error inserting snd_usb_audio (/lib/modules/
Mr.UNOwen (jerry-comp) wrote : | #28 |
Can someone tell how I can go back to the former version?
moa3333 (moa3333) wrote : | #29 |
update: i have installed alsa with drivers from the alsa web site. The probem persists after sucessfull install, so its not a alsa problem but a kernel problem.
now i am back to ubuntu packages of alsa, still no sound.
Changed in linux: | |
status: | Invalid → Confirmed |
status: | Confirmed → Invalid |
description: | updated |
mafix (mafix) wrote : | #30 |
same on my thinkpad t61p
audio dev:
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
tech0007 (tech0007) wrote : | #31 |
same here, i have via chipset. i removed 2.6.24-12 and put 2.6.24-11 back. sound returned.
sancheztavo (sancheztavo) wrote : | #32 |
module "soundcore" does not exist in 2.6.24-12, but it does exist in 2.6.24-11. And it seems to be needed to load module "snd"
Arthur Bogard (arthur-bogard-gmail) wrote : | #33 |
Just signing on to say "me, too" with an intel965 chipset.
Ed G. (zrchrn) wrote : | #34 |
this is also an issue on my Dell Inspiron 640m with intel sound card.
iKs (iks279) wrote : | #35 |
I confirm that bug once more (using hda-intel).
Toten Maske (totenmaske0) wrote : | #36 |
Ryan Davies (iownsu) wrote : | #37 |
I Get this bug also
ryan@RPC:~$ lspci | grep audio
00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
Andreas Schröder (mangkorn) wrote : | #38 |
Same thing here no sound on kernel -12 but 11 still works fine
Bradley (br1179) wrote : | #39 |
Same here. Sound worked better than ever with -11. No sound in -12.
(Apple MacBook Pro, 2nd gen.)
lod (altoas) wrote : | #40 |
when loading snd (modprobe snd) in 2.6.24-12:
[ 102.804679] snd: Unknown symbol unregister_
[ 102.804846] snd: Unknown symbol register_
[ 102.805201] snd: Unknown symbol sound_class
FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/
FATAL: Error running install command for snd
Glenn (g-mason) wrote : | #41 |
Same here on P100 Toshiba Laptop. This has never had sound and was so excited with 2.6.24.11.
Love what I see
Zaeggu (zaeggu) wrote : | #42 |
Same problem on my Acer Aspire 9302WSMi
lspci Output:
root@zaeggu-
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1)
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
00:0a.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PMU (rev a3)
00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3)
00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev f1)
00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev f1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1)
04:05.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
04:06.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 Cardbus Controller
04:06.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
05:00.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61)
05:00.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 61)
05:00.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 63)
root@zaeggu-
LEVIS Cyril (atlas95) wrote : | #43 |
Same on my Dell XPS m1330.
foox (fooxland) wrote : | #44 |
same here.
no sound on my station with an audigy 1 and no sound with my lenovo 3000 n 100 (hda intel)
Pasier (pasier) wrote : | #45 |
same here, now working with 11, perfect sound, waiting for update
Uwe Klosa (uwe-klosa) wrote : | #46 |
Same here on a Siemens Esprimo
Miloš Jakovljević (milos-sd) wrote : | #47 |
I think that yesterday we didn't had linux-ubuntu-
Marco Cimmino (cimmo) wrote : | #48 |
no the sound is broken with also linux-ubuntu-
Evgeny Kuznetsov (nekr0z) wrote : | #49 |
It doesn't, with linux-ubuntu-
Adam Conrad (adconrad) wrote : | #50 |
This is a big "me too" on my machine, freshly upgraded to hardy, and up to date as of a few seconds ago. Unresolved symbols galore in sound modules.
Caroline Ford (secretlondon) wrote : | #51 |
We don't need any more ME TOOs! We know this affects everybody! (unless you are running the -rt kernel apparently)
Nemes Ioan Sorin (nemes-sorin) wrote : | #52 |
Temporary solution: revert to kernel 2.6.24-11
damo (diamante) wrote : | #53 |
same here
Nemes Ioan Sorin (nemes-sorin) wrote : | #54 |
for everyone with ME TOO or SAME HERE, at boot sequence choose kernel 2.6.24-11 instead of 2.6.24-12.
Do not report anymore this big - it's a known problem for now - they work on it.
.. ;) if someone will not end close this thread - in few hours - this thread will cover London - New York distance.
vista killer (vistakiller) wrote : | #55 |
same problem here in kubuntu hardy 2.6.24-12
sniffy (konwal1) wrote : | #56 |
same here too
Rotbart van Dainig (rotbart-van-dainig) wrote : | #57 |
2.6.24-12 breaks sound on a SB Live 24! (CA0106), too.
The Punisher (melprinsi) wrote : | #58 |
Me too on ECS Geforce7050M-M module snd-hda-intel, hda-nvidia
Winael (vinzjobard) wrote : | #59 |
I have the same probleme with my Dell Inspiron 9400
[url=http://
Changed in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24: | |
status: | Confirmed → Invalid |
Changed in linux: | |
assignee: | nobody → ben-collins |
importance: | Undecided → Critical |
milestone: | none → ubuntu-8.04-beta |
status: | Invalid → Fix Committed |
Henti Smith (henti) wrote : | #60 |
ditto with dell vostro1500
Simone Tolotti (simontol) wrote : | #61 |
Same here.
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
simone@
ac97_bus.ko
Nothing else in tis directory...
Simone Tolotti (simontol) wrote : | #62 |
Same here.
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
simone@
ac97_bus.ko
Nothing else in this directory...
Alessandro Ghersi (alessandro-ghersi) wrote : | #63 |
- lspci-vvnn Edit (12.0 KiB, text/plain)
Same issue.
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[ 35.154334] input: PC Speaker as /devices/
[ 35.196214] snd: Unknown symbol unregister_
[ 35.196307] snd: Unknown symbol register_
[ 35.196492] snd: Unknown symbol sound_class
[ 35.228307] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 35.228358] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 35.228406] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 35.228454] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 35.228503] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 35.228553] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printk
[ 35.228599] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 35.228648] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 35.228694] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_card_file_add
[ 35.228744] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[ 35.228789] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_major
[ 35.228840] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 35.228888] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[ 35.228939] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 35.228990] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_lookup_
[ 35.229039] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_lookup_
[ 35.229085] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 35.229134] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_card_
[ 35.229181] snd_hwdep: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 35.359989] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 35.360038] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 35.360088] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 35.360149] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printk
[ 35.360201] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[ 35.360255] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_ecards_limit
[ 35.360303] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_oss_
[ 35.360350] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 35.360400] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[ 35.360467] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 35.399642] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 35.399694] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 35.399753] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 35.399838] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printk
[ 35.399893] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_iprintf
[ 35.399949] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_ecards_limit
[ 35.400001] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_oss_
[ 35.400048] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_unregister_
[ 35.400098] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_device_new
[ 35.400165] snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_register_
[ 35.425245] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_register
[ 35.425296] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_
[ 35.425346] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_
[ 35.425410] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_notify
[ 35.425463] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_timer_interrupt
[ 35.425516] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry
[ 35.425565] snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_add_device_...
Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote : | #64 |
This bug was fixed in the package linux - 2.6.24-12.20
---------------
linux (2.6.24-12.20) hardy; urgency=low
[Ben Collins]
* Enable CONFIG_SOUND at least, so alsa build in lum works
- LP: #200338
-- Ben Collins <email address hidden> Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:15:00 -0400
Changed in linux: | |
status: | Fix Committed → Fix Released |
PAshaRome (pasharome) wrote : | #65 |
confirm on Dell Vostro 1400 - no sound after kernel upgrade
Runa Lejeune (runalejeune) wrote : | #66 |
Confirm on Hardy, Dell Dimension 2400. 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-
ninoskiz (ninoskiz) wrote : | #67 |
acer aspire 1650
lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express Processor to DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev d4)
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1e.3 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 04)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801FB/
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
06:01.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCIxx21/x515 Cardbus Controller
06:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
06:08.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401 100Base-T (rev 02)
STOP RESPONDING. We know its confirmed, it was already confirmed by everyone... and is already fixed.
Mohd Farimi Ab Rahman (farimi) wrote : | #69 |
This bug was fixed in the package linux - 2.6.24-12.20
What do you mean? I got 2.6.24-12.20 and my hda-intel still do not have sound!
arkim (arkim-benali) wrote : | #70 |
hello ,
I have no sound too , hardy heron says problem with volume control gstreamer. my soundcard is Creative SB PCI128 (Ensoniq ES5880)
" lspci |grep Audio
02:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)"
Mikael Nilsson (mini) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #71 |
mån 2008-03-10 klockan 16:30 +0000 skrev goldsniper:
> This bug was fixed in the package linux - 2.6.24-12.20
>
> What do you mean? I got 2.6.24-12.20 and my hda-intel still do not have
> sound!
This package is still building, so no, you don't have it.
/Mikael
>
--
<email address hidden>
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Mr.UNOwen (jerry-comp) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #72 |
How long till the fix makes it to update manager?
MsTiFtS (mstifts) wrote : | #73 |
I guess it will need a few hours until all the affected packages are rebuilt.
Quick workaround:
- fetch linux-source-2.6.24
- untar /usr/src/
- copy /boot/config-
- cd into /usr/src/
- run: make oldconfig (shouldn't be needed, but for safety)
- run: make menuconfig
- go to device drivers -> sound
- set sound card support to "m"
- go back and save the config
- run: make scripts prepare
- run: make SUBDIRS=sound modules
- run: cp sound/soundcore.ko /lib/modules/
- run: depmod -a
- load your sound card module e.g. snd-hda-intel by running: modprobe snd-hda-intel
- everything works again, not even a reboot needed
If you don't know what your sound card module is, just reboot and it'll automatically get loaded
Anders Wennström (anders-w89) wrote : | #74 |
great :)
André Ventura (afv) wrote : | #75 |
Thanks MsTiFtS, it does work :)
Christian Stöveken (excogitation) wrote : | #76 |
Dave Stroud (bigdavesr) wrote : | #77 |
This bug has not been fixed. I am still having the same problem. I can revert back to previous kerrnal and it will work. thanks
Extaliones (extaliones) wrote : | #78 |
even quicker workaround:
sudo cp /lib/modules/
sudo depmod -a
sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel (or whatever you need)
and sound works again :)
Mikael Nilsson (mini) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #79 |
mån 2008-03-10 klockan 18:55 +0000 skrev Dave Stroud:
> This bug has not been fixed. I am still having the same problem. I can
> revert back to previous kerrnal and it will work. thanks
It has been fixed, but you are still not running the fixed kernel.
Please, everybody, wait until the next kernel update which is
*currently* building and will soon be on its way to the archives.
/Mikael
Christian Stöveken (excogitation) wrote : Yep | #80 |
Extaliones solution works for me.
raphael (raphoun) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #81 |
Thanks Extaliones, it's work for me too.
Daniel Miles (themono) wrote : | #82 |
Extaliones is my hero.
And thanks Ben for the quick fix - I never realised how long it took to build a kernel, the build machine has been running for five hours on this build already.
Chow Loong Jin (hyperair) wrote : | #83 |
Thanks Extaliones. The solution works for me too.
Winael (vinzjobard) wrote : | #84 |
Thx a lot to Ben for his fix. I Think it will be OK for tomorrow morning (in France) so more and more quickly than an other OS ;)
Thx to Extaliones, your solution works for me to have some sound (but i can't use my multimedia control on my keyboard but it's Ok for tonight before Ben's fixe :)
win22 (win22) wrote : | #85 |
same don't work on toshiba portege 7200
It was work on gutsy 7.10 and stop work after I go to Hurdy - from 2.6.22 to 2.6.24.8, 10,11
and it work in WinXP too.
soumyajit (iamwhatiam-soumyajit) wrote : | #86 |
Big Thank You to Extaliones! Hat's off to ya!
for other people's convenience i am quoting the solution by Extaliones again.
"even quicker workaround:
sudo cp /lib/modules/
sudo depmod -a
sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel (or whatever you need)
and sound works again :) "
Haakuturi (haakuturi) wrote : | #87 |
Thanks soumyajit - that worked beautifully ^.^
As soon as I'd run the last command, I got the login sound.
Mohd Farimi Ab Rahman (farimi) wrote : | #88 |
Thanks to Ben and devs for the quick fix!
Thanks to extaliones for the workaround!
Think-Free (think-free) wrote : | #89 |
Same here, lshw give me :
bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
i've put the option ' option snd-hda-intel model=acer ' in ' /etc/modprobe.
Håkon Emil Olsen (hemilo) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #90 |
Many Thanks to Ben!! Now the sound is working.
man, 10.03.2008 kl. 20.33 +0000, skrev Winael:
> Thx a lot to Ben for his fix. I Think it will be OK for tomorrow morning (in France) so more and more quickly than an other OS ;)
> Thx to Extaliones, your solution works for me to have some sound (but i can't use my multimedia control on my keyboard but it's Ok for tonight before Ben's fixe :)
>
Dave Stroud (bigdavesr) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #91 |
thanks Ben and all. got the upgeade and now have sound. Hardy is great
Randy LeJeune (lejeunerandy-fastmail) wrote : | #92 |
Have got the updates, and sound card was detected, but mainly getting static-type sounds, no lisetnable sound. Card: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-
Kenneth Loafman (kenneth-loafman) wrote : | #93 |
Also updated to the new kernel. Nvidia card is not recognized, so even if I have sound, I end up with very low-res graphics and that's not usable. Back to -11 till this new problem is solved.
fdmarco (fdmarco3) wrote : | #94 |
I have the same problem of Kenneth, updated to the new kernel, but my nvidia card is not recognized, back again to the old kernel...
rasta_freak (rasta-freak) wrote : | #95 |
You have to copy "nvidia.ko" from "/lib/modules/
Toten Maske (totenmaske0) wrote : | #96 |
Upgraded to the Fixed Kernel, and all seems to be running fine, except one key issue - no audio with VLC, running everything running through PulseAudio in System>
My Soundcard is a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS.
Winael (vinzjobard) wrote : | #97 |
It's OK for me, I upgrade my kernel and it works perfectly. Thanks you very much Ben
Andreas Schröder (mangkorn) wrote : | #98 |
After the Sound fix on Kernel 2.6.12-14 the Nvidia graphic couldn't detected correctly. proprietary driver are not installed but in 2.6.11 still installed.
Graphic card is Nvidia GeForce 6100 NForce 405 (Chip)
Still works correct with Kernel 2.6.11
Sound works
Toten Maske (totenmaske0) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #99 |
I have no idea what happened, but now it is working again... did a few
tinkering in the actual Volume Control, but nothing major, and now VLC
is working as it should. Hopefully this becomes a non issue.
Winael wrote:
> It's OK for me, I upgrade my kernel and it works perfectly. Thanks you
> very much Ben
>
>
Jan Mynarik (jan-mynarik) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #100 |
For those with nvidia graphics card problem (low res): run 'sudo depmod -a' and then reboot. This solved it for me.
Anderson (amg1127) wrote : | #101 |
I have got sound with last update, but I had to build modules by hand.
Linux 2.6.24-11-generic provided my sound card module.
# aplay /usr/share/
ALSA lib confmisc.
ALSA lib conf.c:
ALSA lib confmisc.
ALSA lib conf.c:
ALSA lib confmisc.
ALSA lib conf.c:
ALSA lib conf.c:
ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:
aplay: main:546: audio open error: No such device
# dpkg-query -W linux-image-`uname -r`
linux-image-
# lspci | grep Multimedia
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
# lspci -n | grep 0:11.5
00:11.5 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 50)
# modinfo snd-via82xx
modinfo: could not find module snd-via82xx
# ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/
ls: cannot access /lib/modules/
# find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname '*82xx*'
(no output)
# apt-get -y install alsa-source
(installed package alsa-source)
# module-assistant build alsa && module-assistant install alsa
# modinfo snd-via82xx
filename: /lib/modules/
license: GPL
description: VIA VT82xx audio
author: Jaroslav Kysela <email address hidden>
srcversion: ABE5B69C337DEB4
alias: pci:v00001106d0
alias: pci:v00001106d0
depends: snd-ac97-
vermagic: 2.6.24-12-generic SMP mod_unload 586
parm: index:Index value for VIA 82xx bridge. (int)
parm: id:ID string for VIA 82xx bridge. (charp)
parm: mpu_port:MPU-401 port. (VT82C686x only) (long)
parm: joystick:Enable joystick. (VT82C686x only) (bool)
parm: ac97_clock:AC'97 codec clock (default 48000Hz). (int)
parm: ac97_quirk:AC'97 workaround for strange hardware. (charp)
parm: dxs_support:Support for DXS channels (0 = auto, 1 = enable, 2 = disable, 3 = 48k only, 4 = no VRA, 5 = enable any sample rate) (int)
parm: enable:bool
# modprobe snd-via82xx
(no output)
# aplay /usr/share/
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/
Anderson (amg1127) wrote : | #102 |
I forgot an important information:
# uname -m
i686
Kenneth Loafman (kenneth-loafman) wrote : | #103 |
@ Jan Mynarik
Thanks for the hint about depmod -a. I just installed the 3rd attempt at 2.6.24-12 and the Nvidia card was not recognized, again. Got root, did depmod -a, rebooted, and all is well for now. What a roller-coaster this release has been!
Bruce R (bm007a0030) wrote : | #104 |
Sound and Vision restored by revised kernel within today's x234 Updates package !
Thanks for the hard work guys !
(So back to installing and checking out individual sound and vision packages)
rasta_freak (rasta-freak) wrote : | #105 |
With this new kernel (2.6.24-12.20) sensors don't work (for temperature) and "console-
Evgeny Kuznetsov (nekr0z) wrote : | #106 |
rasta_freak, you can file a new bug on those issues (two separate bugs, that is), if you feel it to be necessary, since this bug was reported about sound and is solved as such (video, sensors, mouse or even USB-mug-warmer issues are not covered by this bugreport).
By the way, I have no problems with sensors or VTs running -12.20 amd64 kernel on my system.
Bruce R (bm007a0030) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #107 |
Regarding rasta_freak's message, I did a re-install to then Update to
kernel
2.6.24-12-generic which restored sound and vision. As to temperatures,
Panel Weather Reports working OK and EnvyNG-conferred GPU Thermal
Monitor is also fine, otherwise I don't know what he's referring to.
My outstanding problems appear to be with audio-visual multi-tasking, which
is great in Gutsy, but flakey in Hardy Alpha-6.
tech0007 (tech0007) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #108 |
- syslog_lspci Edit (54.0 KiB, text/plain)
2.6.24-12-generic still does not work for me. I get a blank screen after the progress bar. When I tried the recovery menu, text on the root console disappear. I only get a blinking cursor. I typed gdm (without actually seeing it on the screen), i get "failure to initialilze HAL" when I log on.
I'm attaching syslog and lspci.
Hardy works fine with 2.6.24-11-generic. any ideas?
tech0007 (tech0007) wrote : | #109 |
or should i submit a new bug?
Evgeny Kuznetsov (nekr0z) wrote : | #110 |
You certainly should, tech0007. I have pointed that out 4 comments higher.
tech0007 (tech0007) wrote : | #111 |
Changed in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24: | |
milestone: | ubuntu-8.04-beta → none |
Giovanni Mellini (merlos) wrote : | #112 |
same problem for me.
merlos@
Linux merlos-lap 2.6.24-12-386 #1 Wed Mar 12 22:30:29 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
merlos@
I have a DELL D620 laptop, this morning I upgraded from 7.10
merlos@
[...]
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
Subsystem: Dell Unknown device 01c2
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: Memory at efffc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[...]
x (xk2c-deactivatedaccount) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #113 |
Giovanni Mellini wrote the following on 21.03.2008 11:57
> same problem for me.
>
> merlos@
> Linux merlos-lap 2.6.24-12-386 #1 Wed Mar 12 22:30:29 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
try to boot the 'generic' kernel and test with that one.
--
bye Thilo
key: 0x4A411E09
Giovanni Mellini (merlos) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #114 |
tried the "2.6.24-12-generic" kernel but my laptop won't start :(
I waited for 3/4 minutes and the system freezed, I cannot use the ALT+F1 to switch to console and the only think I can do was to power off the system.
deleted (raulih-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #115 |
I get no sound in any application in Hardy beta, kernel 2.6.24-12.22 both generic and rt. However in "System > Applications > Sound" I can hear test sound while choosing "ICE1712 multi" for my Terratec EWS88MT, but any tested setting in any sound application seems not to give any sound.
Sounds work fine (not in Amarok though) when starting with 2.6.22-14 generic kernel.
PulseAudio says everywhere "Connection failed: Connection refused", so that doesn't work at all.
deleted (raulih-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #116 |
I get no sound in any application in Hardy beta, kernel 2.6.24-12.22 both generic and rt. However in "System > Applications > Sound" I can hear test sound while choosing "ICE1712 multi" for my Terratec EWS88MT, but any tested setting in any application preferences seems not to give any sound.
Sounds work fine (not in Amarok though) when starting with 2.6.22-14 generic kernel.
PulseAudio says everywhere "Connection failed: Connection refused", so that doesn't work at all.
Brett Alton (brett-alton-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #117 |
For me, I upgraded from Ubuntu 7.10 to Ubuntu 8.04 Beta yesterday (2008-03-22) and the linux-image-
When I booted using the linux-image-
Mario Limonciello (superm1) wrote : | #118 |
Brettalton, that's not this bug. That's bug 188287.
earthforce_1 (earthforce1) wrote : | #119 |
I found the same thing my sound problem went away when I went from the i386 to the generic kernel, although I had to reinstall the appropriate nvidia drivers. The mystery is how I mistakenly ended up with the i386 kernel by default.
IdleOne (idleone) wrote : | #120 |
having same issues with my Acer Aspire 4315.
system>prefs>sound lists no device but lspci list fine
Jeremy Vies (jeremy.vies) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #121 |
I had the same problem yesterday. Upgrading to Hardy made i386 kernel
installed, but only the main part of kernel.
I installed linux-i386 (to have additionnal drivers installed) and then
sound worked.
JV
ps: (on my desktop with dmraid disks, the generic kernel does not boot...)
2008/3/24, IdleOne <email address hidden>:
>
> having same issues with my Acer Aspire 4315.
> system>prefs>sound lists no device but lspci list fine
>
>
> --
> no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
--
Theory is where you know everything, but nothing works; practice is where
everything works, but nobody knows why. Here we combine theory with
practice; nothing works and nobody knows why !
A.Einstein
mabovo (mabovo) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #122 |
Sound issues on ICH7 HDA-INTEL
mabovo@macbook:~$ cat /proc/asound/
Codec: SigmaTel STAC9221 A1
mabovo@macbook:~$ cat /proc/asound/
Codec: SigmaTel STAC9221 A1
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x83847680
Subsystem Id: 0x106b2200
Revision Id: 0x103401
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
rates [0x7e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
Default Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x7f, nsteps=0x7f, stepsize=0x02, mute=1
GPIO: io=4, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=1
IO[0]: enable=1, dir=1, wake=0, sticky=0, data=1
IO[1]: enable=1, dir=1, wake=0, sticky=0, data=1
IO[2]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0
IO[3]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0
Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
Amp-Out caps: N/A
Amp-Out vals: [0x42 0x42]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
Amp-Out caps: N/A
Amp-Out vals: [0x4d 0x4d]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x04 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
Amp-Out caps: N/A
Amp-Out vals: [0x4d 0x4d]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x05 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xd0c05: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
Amp-Out caps: N/A
Amp-Out vals: [0x2f 0x4d]
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Delay: 13 samples
Node 0x06 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
SDI-Select: 0
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Delay: 13 samples
Connection: 1
0x17
Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=0
Node 0x07 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x1d0541: Stereo
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
SDI-Select: 0
Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Delay: 13 samples
Connection: 1
0x18
Processing caps: benign=0, ncoeff=0
Node 0x08 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x40211: Stereo Digital
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
Digital:
Digital category: 0x0
PCM:
rates [0x7e0]: 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
Delay: 4 samples
Node 0x09 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x140311: Stereo Digital
Converter: stream=0, channel=0
SDI-Select: 0
Digital:
Digital category: 0x0
PCM:
rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
Delay: 4 samples
Connection: 1
0x11
Node 0x0a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
Pincap 0x08173f: IN OUT HP Detect Trigger ImpSense
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
Pin Default 0x0321e21f: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Left
Conn = 1/8, Color = White
DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0xf
Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP VREF_HIZ
Unsolicited: tag=30, enabled=1
Connection: 1
0x02
Node 0x0b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400181: Stereo
Pincap 0x081737: IN OUT Detect Trigger ImpSense
Vref caps: HIZ 50 GRD 80
Pin Default 0x03a1e02e: [Jack] Mic at Ext Left
Conn = 1/8, Color = White
DefAssociation = 0x2, Sequence = 0xe
Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT VREF_HIZ
Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0
Conn...
ninik78@gmail.com (ninik78) wrote : | #123 |
even for me no sound after upgrade from 7.10 and kernel generic doesn't work at all.
I've tried to uninstall/reinstall alsa package... but no effect.
ninik78@gmail.com (ninik78) wrote : | #124 |
sorry I forget my configuration:
laptop Vaio FS315M:
Processor Intel Pentium M Processor 740
Network Intel FW82801FBM + 82562ET
Sound Chip Realtek ALC260 2-Channel High Definition Audio Codec 3D Surround AC 97
Giovanni Mellini (merlos) wrote : | #125 |
HI guys, I solved, now WFM :)
I noticed that the kernel modules were not installed (why???); only the -generic kernel modules were installed (but this kernel won't boot on my dell latitude D620)
So try this
$ sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-
and restart the system
Now the sound works and the wireless connection too :)
Someone have to fix this.
Hope this help
Giovanni
Giovanni Mellini (merlos) wrote : | #126 |
I forgot to say that I upgraded from 7.10
Giovanni
Igor Zubarev (igor.zubarev) wrote : | #127 |
Confirm no sound after upgrade from 7.10 Sony VAIO VGN-FS115MR
Rick Gabriel (klaxian1) wrote : | #128 |
Make sure you are not running the 386 kernel (unless you have to) or make sure the linux-ubuntu-
Zartan (mattik-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #129 |
No sound on my laptop after latest updates. It worked before Eastern.
Zartan (mattik-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #130 |
Asustek M6VA is my laptop and I'm using kdm as window manager.
Bruce R (bm007a0030) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #131 |
Hi Guys
Today, after a Manual re-install of 8.04 Beta from scratch,
it offered x164 Updates rather than Sunday's x52 Updates
and they must be better coded, because most of my problems
have vanished, so try a fresh install !
(The new MacSlow Analog clock is great.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "mattikoo" <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 6:40 PM
Subject: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12
No sound on my laptop after latest updates. It worked before Eastern.
--
no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12
https:/
You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
of a duplicate bug.
deleted (raulih-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #132 |
Is the fresh install really the solution? Could somebody confirm?
Omar Abdel-Wahab (owahab) wrote : | #133 |
- my uname and lspci output Edit (2.2 KiB, text/plain)
Got it to work!
I have upgraded to 8.04 since Alpha 1.
When I linux-image-
Bruce's comment (https:/
# apt-get remove --purge linux-backports
Apt couldn't rm -r the /lib/modules/
# rm -rf /lib/modules/
Then:
# apt-get install linux-backports
# depmod -a
Reboot.
Sound works.
ninik78@gmail.com (ninik78) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #134 |
I've tried the solution proposed by Giovanni Mellini
$ sudo apt-get install linux-ubuntu-
> and restart the system
now the volume control is "cosmetically" working but still no sound from my
speakers!
ninik78@gmail.com (ninik78) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #135 |
I'm confirming that re-fresh install solutions:
https:/
or
https:/
both works.
thanks all!!
nino.
IdleOne (idleone) wrote : | #136 |
installed linux-image-
Sound now works
deleted (raulih-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #137 |
Made new installation today, now with Ubuntu Studio 8.04 beta. Only thing left from previous installation was the home directory. RE-INSTALLATION MADE ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE!!! Still no sound in any applications. Only available sound is the test sound for "ICE1712 multi" in "system > preferences > sound". I have amd64 btw.
Caroline Ford (secretlondon) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #138 |
THERE IS NO POINT KEEP ADDING TO THIS BUG.
This bug is fixed, and was a specific problem with a version of the kernel.
Any other sound problems belong in their own bugs, nobody will notice any
here as it is fixed.
Bruce R (bm007a0030) wrote : | #139 |
Hi guys
Having exchanged some thoughts with others, it's all
probably down to the new kernel/hardware interface
I am using a Gigabye G31MX-S2 board/F4 BIOS
with Realtek HD sound, hosting an E2160 CPU,
probably the most critical elements for sound.
However I am still experiencing some Exaile/Kaffeine
conflict, which does not not happen with Ubuntu 7.10
----- Original Message -----
From: "raulih" <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:29 PM
Subject: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12
Made new installation today, now with Ubuntu Studio 8.04 beta. Only
thing left from previous installation was the home directory. RE-
INSTALLATION MADE ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE!!! Still no sound in any
applications. Only available sound is the test sound for "ICE1712 multi"
in "system > preferences > sound". I have amd64 btw.
--
no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12
https:/
You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
of a duplicate bug.
deleted (raulih-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #140 |
Let's put them here then:
https:/
Caroline Ford wrote:
> THERE IS NO POINT KEEP ADDING TO THIS BUG.
>
> This bug is fixed, and was a specific problem with a version of the kernel.
> Any other sound problems belong in their own bugs, nobody will notice any
> here as it is fixed.
>
Caroline Ford (secretlondon) wrote : | #141 |
Separate bugs please. You'll all have different hardware.
xtsbdu3reyrbrmroezob (xtsbdu3reyrbrmroezob) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #142 |
Still broken in the latest updates...
root@dell-
Linux dell-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
root@dell-
alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
root@dell-
dell-desktop
description: Portable Computer
product: Inspiron 1525
vendor: Dell Inc.
serial: 4CGL1G1
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4
configuration: boot=normal chassis=portable uuid=44454C4C-
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: 0U990C
vendor: Dell Inc.
physical id: 0
serial: .4CGL1G1.
*-firmware
vendor: Dell Inc.
physical id: 0
version: A11 (03/10/2008)
size: 64KiB
capacity: 1984KiB
*-cpu
product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7250 @ 2.00GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 400
bus info: cpu@0
version: 6.15.13
serial: 0000-06FD-
slot: Microprocessor
size: 2001MHz
capacity: 2001MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 200MHz
*-cache:0
size: 32KiB
*-cache:1
size: 2MiB
clock: 66MHz (15.0ns)
width: 64 bits
width: 64 bits
*-memory
physical id: 1000
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 4GiB
*-bank:0
slot: DIMM_A
size: 2GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)
*-bank:1
sl...
wilfred (wilfredlams) wrote : | #143 |
Same here, sound is not working in new kernel
Fuat Geleri (fuatgeleri) wrote : | #144 |
I just upgrade to Ubuntu Hardy, and sound gone off. Then I installed alsamixergui, and I saw that sound is muted. It was not shown on console version of alsamixer. The problem was that, the main channel is muted. I unmute it, and worked.
liam (liamr1) wrote : | #145 |
I have the same problem as above-zero sound.
csi53801 (charles-sialve) wrote : | #146 |
I just upgrade to Hardy and I have no sound too
IBM Thinkpad X31
ubby (kostas-sytske) wrote : | #147 |
I also have no sound and still don't know a solution.
pfoff (ubuntu-fof) wrote : | #148 |
No sound here, neither....
Kubuntu hardy on Thinkpad T61p, hardware onfos attached.
Tried all fixes, I found. Gonna try if etch worx....
pfoff (ubuntu-fof) wrote : | #149 |
Riddic (jfeurich) wrote : | #150 |
This is probably obvious, but make sure you have the "restricted" module packages installed, i.e.
'linux-
'linux-
'linux-
'linux-generic'
That should take care of pretty much everything.
Joe Baldwin (joseph-baldwin) wrote : | #151 |
^agreed mine was missing the linux-ubuntu-
leo (leofishman-gmail) wrote : | #152 |
I have the linux-ubuntu-
It did work with some previous modules like the linux-ubuntu-
but after the upgrade stoped working again.
May it be a conflict with VirtualBox?
Arnaud Jeansen (ajeans) wrote : | #153 |
It seems that for some Dell hardware, snd-hda-intel.ko is modified to accomodate hsfmodem. This broke sound for me on an Inspiron 1525 for the Intel soundcard.
If you have the following file "/lib/modules/
This solved my sound problem on recent kernels.
leo (leofishman-gmail) wrote : | #154 |
Hi Arnaud,
I don't have a dell computer neither that file renamed.
Now I use the 2.6.24.14 kernel and the sound works fine.
Maybe I should make a clean install, since I have upgrated form the 7.10
Arnaud Jeansen (ajeans) wrote : | #155 |
@Leo: May I suggest the following?
- Authorize the hardy-proposed channel and install the 2.6.24.20 kernel and the related 2.6.24.20 modules. It will create a new module directory for this kernel (differnent from the .19 one). If your problem comes from something gone wrong when upgrading gutsy to hardy, this may solve your problem.
OR
- Download the Hardy Live CD, and boot on it to see if you get sound. If it does, a clean install is your best shot.
As for your previous comment, I have the virtualbox kernel module installed and it works for me.
Good luck.
leo (leofishman-gmail) wrote : | #156 |
Upgraded to 24-20 and still the same...
I'll keep using the 24-14 for a few more days and then I'll make a fresh install.
Thanks a lot
leo (leofishman-gmail) wrote : | #157 |
I just upgraded to 24.21 and the sounds work again :)
Thanks
khiraly (khiraly123) wrote : | #158 |
It breaks for me on ubuntu 8.10-alpha6.
If I kill pulseaudio, it works again. I tried reinstalling pulseaudio (suggested in another bugreport), but didnt worked.
My device:
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Audio [10de:00da] (rev a2)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:006d]
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0 (500ns min, 1250ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
Region 0: I/O ports at 1400 [size=256]
Region 1: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=128]
Region 2: Memory at e8002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
khiraly (khiraly123) wrote : | #159 |
Forgotten my kernel version:
uname -a
Linux buza 2.6.27-4-generic #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 01:30:51 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
x (xk2c-deactivatedaccount) wrote : | #160 |
@khiraly: This seems to be an other issue then what this bugreport is about. Please open up a new one.
Everthon Valadão (valadao) wrote : | #161 |
- audio_debug.txt Edit (1.0 KiB, text/plain)
Same here, BUT here's a quick FIX:
sudo killall pulseaudio
sudo alsa force-reload
and them go to System>
;-)
P.S.: PulseAudio sucks!
crtlbreak (hauptfleisch) wrote : | #162 |
hmmm ...
user@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep Audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
The sound worked on a new installation of 8.04 - then crapped out immediately after Virtualbox ose-modules were installed. Still wrestling on the restoration of audio but it is definitely the Virtualbox module that caused the problem.
regards
crtlbreak
leo (leofishman-gmail) wrote : Re: [Bug 200338] Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #163 |
I agree, had the same issue.
Try to upgrade the kernel, it should work fine.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:28 AM, crtlbreak <email address hidden>wrote:
> hmmm ...
>
> user@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep Audio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
> Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
>
> The sound worked on a new installation of 8.04 - then crapped out
> immediately after Virtualbox ose-modules were installed. Still wrestling
> on the restoration of audio but it is definitely the Virtualbox module
> that caused the problem.
>
> regards
> crtlbreak
>
> --
> no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
crtlbreak (hauptfleisch) wrote : Re: no sound hardy kernel 2.6.24-12 | #164 |
thank you leo
but i have the latest kernel for 8.04 - it was after the Virtualbox ose-modules were installed that the problem started.
user@ubuntu:~$ uname -a
Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-21-386 #1 Tue Oct 21 23:10:03 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
regards
crtlbreak
anagor (anagor) wrote : | #165 |
ctrlbreak,
Have you tried uninstalling virtualbox modules to see if sound comes back?
If this is the case indeed, can you attach here the dmesg without the virtualbox modules, when the sound is working and with the virtualbox modules, when the sound isn't working?
crtlbreak (hauptfleisch) wrote : | #166 |
- dmesg_soundissue.txt Edit (63.1 KiB, text/plain)
apologies anagor for the delayed response - it has been a hellova week for me - the sound issue was way down on the agenda.
I have uninstalled the vitualbox-ose modules and after a reboot it has not solved the problem.
The sound does however return when I boot with "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic"
on grub boot options as opposed to the current "Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-386" where the sound does not work. I have posted both dmesg as attachments
Now I know the short term fix to that one (just boot with the working kernel) but that is the sole reason yourself and most of us are registered users and take part in this whole exercise - we would not simply accept the temp fix as a final solution - we need to get to the bottom of it, right?
I have attached my dmesg - within the test file are two sections - NOSOUND and SOUNDWORKING
Regards
crtlbreak
anagor (anagor) wrote : | #167 |
I can't say anything from the dmesg, since no sound/alsa drivers are loaded in kernel, only in userspace, but if I remember correctly the ubuntu kernels are all generic for some time now, so the 64bit and 386 should be the same.
Therefore the question is why do you need the 386 kernel?
And your issue is probably the alsa drivers failing because they think the aren't compatible with 386 kernel.
Guillaume (guillaume-henin) wrote : | #168 |
This is not a bug for Dell Installs (and I think for other OEM installs). Maybe somebody should filter out comments reporting bug on OEM or modified installs (i.e. modules package not from ubuntu repos) and take in account only bugs occuring on pure ubuntu install.
On Dell Laptops, if you have modem support your modules comes from Dell ppa. If you want modem *and* sound working together you must stay with Dell ppa packages. Maybe you should stick the modules package version to Dell ppa repos.
user@dell-laptop:~$ sudo apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-
linux-ubuntu-
Installé : 2.6.24-23.37Dell1
Candidat : 2.6.24-23.37Dell1
Table de version :
*** 2.6.24-23.37Dell1 0
500 http://
100 /var/lib/
2.6.24-23.37 0
500 http://
500 http://
user@dell-laptop:~$ sudo apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-
linux-ubuntu-
Installé : 2.6.24-24.39
Candidat : 2.6.24-24.39
Table de version :
*** 2.6.24-24.39 0
500 http://
100 /var/lib/
As you can see, there is no Dell version of 2.6.24-24, so sound is broken when you update because you get package from ubuntu updates.
Remember : internal modems and sound chips are tied in hardware, so OEMs had to adapt sound modules to get modem working properly.
same here, this should go to critical priority, its a BAD thing right now, causes a lot of other program on my machine to crash.