[Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information / new update-manager behaviour is annoying
Affects | Status | Importance | Assigned to | Milestone | |
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One Hundred Papercuts |
Invalid
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Undecided
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Unassigned | ||
update-notifier (Ubuntu) |
Won't Fix
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High
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Unassigned | ||
Jaunty |
Won't Fix
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High
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Unassigned |
Bug Description
I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by:
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Specific messages worth reading are:
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Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is:
* When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show
them (plus any other available updates) within a day.
* When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and
show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last
opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates
were actually installed then).
* When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open
automatically at all.
Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread.
Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, won't it?
In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon should be displayed when updates are available.
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The window currently opens far too often when security updates are available: this is because of bug 369198, which is awaiting testing before it can be fixed in Ubuntu 9.04.
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To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour:
gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-
(Take into account that this gconf change is not supported.)
To have the update manager launch immediately when updates are available, use this:
gconftool -s --type int /apps/update-
Changed in update-notifier: | |
importance: | Wishlist → High |
status: | New → Confirmed |
Changed in update-notifier: | |
assignee: | nobody → dxteam |
assignee: | dxteam → canonical-dx-team |
Changed in update-notifier (Ubuntu Jaunty): | |
status: | Confirmed → Won't Fix |
summary: |
- [Jaunty] Removal of Update Notifier is WRONG + [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information |
Changed in ubuntu-release-notes: | |
importance: | Undecided → Low |
description: | updated |
Changed in update-notifier (Ubuntu): | |
status: | Confirmed → Won't Fix |
Changed in ubuntu-release-notes: | |
status: | New → Fix Released |
affects: | ubuntu-release-notes → null |
description: | updated |
description: | updated |
description: | updated |
description: | updated |
summary: |
- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information + [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information / + new update-manager behaviour is annoying |
description: | updated |
description: | updated |
description: | updated |
description: | updated |
tags: | removed: dxteam |
Changed in null: | |
status: | Fix Released → Fix Committed |
status: | Fix Committed → Fix Released |
Changed in update-notifier (Ubuntu): | |
assignee: | Registry Administrators (registry) → nobody |
Changed in update-notifier (Ubuntu Jaunty): | |
assignee: | Registry Administrators (registry) → nobody |
no longer affects: | null |
I am confirming this bug report. I too feel that removing the update-notifier is more a move in the direction of degrading Ubuntu. At least with the update- notifier- icon, I made the decision to install the updates. If the update-manager simply opens, I will have to continue with the work I am doing. Since I have several applications that run when my system starts, having update-manager think I want to run it is not really a desired function. I normally run my updates when I am not busy.
This appears to be one more thing getting in the way of productive work. I have to wonder how many businesses are going to decide that is just one more thing in the way. Doesn't that give the average business and personal user one more reason to quit using Ubuntu?