Network information should not be considered user private

[Rick Spencer]

This happens to me each day after I update to the daily image.

Steps:
1. Update to daily image
2. Try to swipe from the top of the screen across the wireless symbol to activate wireless

Result:
Nothing happens

Expected:
The indicator panel is revealed and I can choose my wireless connection

Steps:
3. Swipe from the side to activate the launcher
4. Choose an application, such as facebook
5. Swipe from teh top as in step #2

Result:
The indicator panel appears as expected and I can set my wireless

<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#Structure>: "In the login screen, you should still be able to connect to networks so that you can use remote login. Therefore, the indicator and menu should be present as normal, but on the PC, any items that lead to System Settings should be insensitive."

[kevin gunn (kgunn72)]

Actually this seems to be a legitimate behavior potentially.
Going to assign to design in order to get some clarification.

Based on irc chat on #ubuntu-unity
<tvoss> Saviq, ping
<Saviq> tvoss, pong
<tvoss> Saviq, are we aware of https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1159011
<tvoss> ?
<ubot5> Launchpad bug 1159011 in touch-preview-images "on Nexus 7 Indicators do not work until an application has been activated from the launcher" [Undecided,New]
<Saviq> tvoss, no
<Saviq> tvoss, I don't have a 7, though :/
<tvoss> Saviq, is that bug logged against the right project?
* hggdh has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
<kgunn> tvoss: let me chase
* hggdh (~hggdh@ubuntu/member/hggdh) has joined #ubuntu-unity
<kgunn> tvoss: i have a 7, just tested against the description - i kind of think its right
<kgunn> tvoss: meaning current behavior
<kgunn> tvoss: if you're on the greeter (aka lock screen)
<kgunn> tvoss: you shouldn't be able to fiddle with indicators
<kgunn> tvoss: a question for design to settle i suppose
<tvoss> kgunn, can you assign it to someone to take care of it?
<kgunn> tvoss: yep...going to point it to a design folk

[Michał Sawicz (saviq)]

What Rick described is definitely not the designed behavior, we'd need someone to confirm the steps to reproduce, though.

[Rick Spencer (rick-rickspencer3)]

My tablet starts up with no network connection. So if I want to browse the web, I have to load a dead web browser first thing? That seems weird.

Also, note that the lock screen of the desktop allows configuration of the network as well as other things.

[kevin gunn (kgunn72)]

i'll try again - i'll wipe my device as well to go fresh (as the only time the indicators weren't accessible was at greeter)

on the topic of greeter/lock screen, i actually do not think its sensible to be able to tinker with anything there.....this is a key difference between desktop and mobile. there is a lot of hand manipulation of a device, carrying it, playing with it, hitting it accidently with fingers in your pocket.....this is precisely why you shouldn't be able to access items from a lock screen (its as much about preventing inadvertent user input as security)

[kevin gunn (kgunn72)]

just updated my Nexus7 to latest phablet image from bootloader, same experience - the only screen i cannot access wifi indicator is on the lock screen/greeter screen.....so, question is still up for design, is this an accurate behavior.

[Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)]

Katie's spec for the welcome screen, in progress, currently says "Top-edge swipe: If pin authentication is on, private information requires entering pin". <http://goo.gl/NL6Gt> This implies that non-private information in indicators is accessible from a top-edge swipe at the welcome screen, *regardless* of whether a PIN code is set.

Safest would be for the indicator code to assume that all information is private unless specified otherwise. So what I need to do, when specifying the wi-fi indicator for phone, is to specify that wi-fi networks are not private.

[Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)]

Specification updated. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=diff&rev2=161&rev1=160> This involved a lot of reorganization the document, but the actual design change is small: the entire network menu should be available at the login screen, except "Network Settings..." on the PC. (On the phone, that item can unlock or prompt you to unlock.)