bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with desktop session

[Willie Pomales]

Binary package hint: bonobo

Fourth day of use of Ubuntu 8.10. Checking /var/log/messages observed:

Nov 5 01:06:44 cpu5 bonobo-activation-server (willie-6923): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-AGa5aGiVvG: Connection refused
Nov 5 01:06:49 cpu5 exiting on signal 15

No apparent derogation of system clock at the desktop, as reported on other threads. I have noticed that window headers do change colors or lose minimizing/maximazing buttons.

[KevinM (kevbert1)]

Also seen in Jaunty Kernel 2.6.27-7 64 bit kernel /var/log/messages:
Nov 18 18:10:00 kevin-dt1b -- MARK --
Nov 18 18:30:00 kevin-dt1b -- MARK --
Nov 18 18:31:23 kevin-dt1b bonobo-activation-server (kevin-9648): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-xW7gIqEPk6: Connection refused
Nov 19 18:21:36 kevin-dt1b syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu1: restart.
Nov 19 18:41:36 kevin-dt1b -- MARK --
Nov 19 18:45:56 kevin-dt1b bonobo-activation-server (kevin-11684): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ICa6ELAbP1: Connection refused
Nov 19 18:46:01 kevin-dt1b bonobo-activation-server (kevin-11794): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ICa6ELAbP1: Connection refused

[yositune (webpagemail)]

I will add that leaving the desktop Framebuffer to a virtual terminal (alt f[1-5] all experience same problem) and then going back to desktop will leave the desktop in a 'hanged' state that requires killing hte X server and session.

There are no dbus process files in /tmp so maybe there's a path problem that needs to be updated with bonobo-activiation-server?

The only thing I found for configuration of the bonobo-activation-server was that it looks for (these are catalog files right?) OAF files in /usr/lib/bonobo/server
...
nnection refused
Nov 29 11:52:42 placid bonobo-activation-server (yositune-32138): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-9v8gtBkJpB: Connection refused
Nov 29 14:23:30 placid bonobo-activation-server (yositune-7795): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-gfE9RjH4U8: Connection refused
Nov 29 14:53:21 placid bonobo-activation-server (yositune-7867): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-aMdcG5qNSy: Connection refused

[yositune (webpagemail)]

Recommend setting this bug as high! as it makes use of virtual terminals impossible without interuppting X Gnome sessions..

[Anakin Starkiller (sunrider)]

I can confirm this bug on Intrepid. A side-effect is that we can't launch gnome applications with ssh -X anymore

[Jorge Moraleda (jorge-moraleda)]

This bug is also intermittently triggered by the use of a KVM switch. Sometimes when switching back to this computer (Up-to-date ubuntu 8.10 64bits) the gnome user session ends after less than a second with the user being logged out.

From /var/log/messages:
Jan 15 13:43:01 sella bonobo-activation-server (jorge-2136): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-TqolgQqP9n: Connection refused

[Ian Phillips (ianfp)]

This happens to me when I log out. The screen goes blank, and the computer stop responding entirely. ctrl+alt+f1 (etc), ctrl+alt+backspace... nothing works. I have to power off my computer and power back on again. I always find this message in /var/log/messages:

Jan 30 11:23:39 acerbic bonobo-activation-server (ianfp-8241): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-YrS0i8o3CM: Connection refused

[Leonardo (rnalrd)]

Similar sympthoms of Ian Phillips here, after having left PC logged on for a night long:

Feb 16 08:15:59 df1844j bonobo-activation-server (somebody-30654): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-0TwjlsrEN7: Connection refused

Screen was blank. Ctrl+Alt+backspace worked.

[Savage (nudirect)]

I also confirm this bug on Intrepid.

Can someone explain to me what this bonobo-activation-server does?

Thnx

[why2jjj (why2jjj)]

If there is a workaround to fix this I would be very interested in seeing it posted here. I experience the same thing with a USB KVM Switch on 32-bit Ubuntu 8.10. Thanks!

[Michael (m-gruys)]

I confirm this bug too (Ubuntu 8.10). Surprisingly this bug does not appear when switching to another user in the gnome desktop (assuming you must have multiple users created). When switched to the new user THIS user does not have the dbus error messages ....
Hope it helps to solve the problem

[Christopher Williams (fiveiron)]

I can also confirm this on 8.10. For me the symptoms are a little different. I have my screensaver set to lock my gnome session when engaged. I have seen twice now where I have returned to my computer in the morning, the screensaver is still running just fine, but when I enter my password to sign back in, the screen briefly flashes and then my X session is killed and I'm brought back to the gdm sign in to start a new session. Very irritating to lose my session every couple of days.

[why2jjj (why2jjj)]

I tried the suggestion Michael posed, logging in as one user then switching to another user while that first user is still logged on. Doesn't work if you do something like you walk away overnight and come in the next morning. In my case, I'll come in the morning, switch from one computer to my Linux box via hitting a kvm switch button, and I will see a prompt for the first user's password, but the user session I switched to is gone. I thought maybe the first user's screen saver was screwing things up, but I have disabled the screen saver.

[ichudov (igor-chudov)]

Same behavior (screen locked for good, I can still SSH into the box). I have to reboot as the laptop becomes unusable due to this. A very obnoxious bug that, in all fairness, should be actually looked at.

[Tobias Klug (tklug)]

I sometimes have the same problem when switching between users (tklug, nina) on intrepid, 32Bit. Upon switching back to the original user (tklug), the desktop keeps black. Sound still plays though. From the logs I got the following errors:

messages:
Mar 31 00:11:08 TremShuttle gdmgreeter[17678]: Gtk-WARNING: Im Modulpfad »ubuntulooks« konnte keine Themen-Engine gefunden werden,
Mar 31 00:11:27 TremShuttle bonobo-activation-server (nina-17843): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-VkuwDC80w1: Connection refused
Mar 31 00:11:32 TremShuttle bonobo-activation-server (nina-17921): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-VkuwDC80w1: Connection refused

[Ski (kacoroski)]

I am getting after upgrading from hardy to intrepid. One some days my thinkpad T61 locks up 3 - 4 times. Is there anything I can do to help resolve this bug as it is incredibly frustrating (especially after hardy was so wonderfully stable).

[why2jjj (why2jjj)]

"(especially after hardy was so wonderfully stable)"

Yes, I was incredibly impressed on the job Connoncial/open-source community did on Hardy (8.04) as I agree Hardy was pleasingly stable. So it is disappointing to see this as the perceived bar got set pretty high with Hardy.

If there is something we can do for this to help, please post it here.

[sbE (svenbergmann)]

same problem with jaunty on a dell latitude e4300 laptop. when i shutdown jaunty the screen goes black and nothing happend. I have to power off my computer manually.

Apr 24 20:48:27 suckup bonobo-activation-server (sven-7348): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-wtFcCtx5Kx: Connection refused
Apr 24 20:48:29 suckup exiting on signal 15

with intrepid i had no problems!

[phars (phars)]

Same problem here on my jaunty 32-bit machine. This happend never before (on intrepid). The screen flickert three times before I had to log me on again... Maybe I should say that I have only one user so I can except that this fact (mentioned above) caused the error...

[Lars (lars-vonk)]

I also experienced this problem with one user. I can't recall a specific action I did that caused this.

Message:

lars-xps bonobo-activation-server (lars-4689): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-sAKhfDBCWu: Connection refused

I am using jaunty 32 bits on a dell xps m1530

[Stanislaw Waszkiewicz (tuwxyz)]

Same here...

bonobo-activation-server (fsm-32104): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-S3Bx8slhHw: Connection refused

[Harima Shinji (playingshinji-deactivatedaccount)]

I got this as well.

"bonobo-activation-server (shinji-8332): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-J286g7jKCg: Connection refused"

And everytime this happens i get sent back to the login-screen.

I am using Jaunty 64bit.

[Stanislaw Waszkiewicz (tuwxyz)]

Are You sure? Check the syslog because it looks like X restart.

[kennymchansen (kennymchansen)]

I have the same problem and error when waking my computer after suspend. It only occurs when i have Compiz enabled.

[Harima Shinji (playingshinji-deactivatedaccount)]

dev: Yeah, it was a x restart after all. The bonobo error happened about a second after x crashed so i assumed bonobo was to blame, however the x restart is linked to bug 342324.

[Maxiwell (maxiwell)]

I was connected a seccion ssh in X mode, and when I left, my X crashed and restarted. The error in messages file is

"bonobo-activation-server (max-14075): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-G5h31r9r4B: Conexão recusada"

[Alex Ivasyuv (industral)]

Submit this issue for Ubuntu 9.04. After this, X session require to restart.

[why2jjj (why2jjj)]

I'm curious...is anyone working on this? There has been offers to help out on this bug and no one has said "yeah, we could use the help, here is what you can do".

[Alexey Shiryavsky (alex-7eyes)]

I can confirm this bug on Intrepid. This happens when I press the multimedia buttons on my XPS M1330.

[datanalytics.com (cgb-datanalytics)]

I get the same error in Karmic. Suddently and without warning, I get a black screen and my gdm session expires. I have to log in back into it.

[pvanderploeg (pieter-nescio)]

I have the same problem since July 9. Random system restart. I use a Dell Inspiron 1525 laptop. The problem seems to have started after I installed Ubuntuone-cient -gnome and de-installed it again because it caused a crash of nautilus. Also it seems to be related to the totem-movie-player, because the crash happens when I watch a movie on my laptop.
last logmessages are:
Jul 10 10:12:03 ppl1525 -- MARK --
Jul 10 10:13:24 ppl1525 bonobo-activation-server (pieter-16078): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ClYU0gUk0K: Connection refused
Jul 10 10:13:29 ppl1525 bonobo-activation-server (pieter-16114): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-ClYU0gUk0K: Connection refused
Jul 10 10:13:36 ppl1525 pulseaudio[16221]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.

I also found some info on
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1158540

regards
Pieter van der Ploeg

[harvest316 (harvest316)]

I get the same in /var/log/messages, except it results in a system freeze. Ctrl-Alt-F1 to change to console doesnt work. Only solved by a hard reset. Happens several times a week on my Dell Dimension 5100 with USB KVM. This is the standard pattern:

Jul 4 09:43:08 dell5100 bonobo-activation-server (...): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-x8SPI7a7nG: Connection refused
Jul 4 09:43:15 dell5100 kernel: [98471.116403] nfsd: last server has exited, flushing export cache
Jul 4 09:43:15 dell5100 exiting on signal 15
Jul 4 09:44:10 dell5100 syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart.

Sometimes I get this bdl_pos_adj message before:

Jul 1 06:49:23 dell5100 kernel: [ 599.843086] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
Jul 1 06:49:25 dell5100 bonobo-activation-server (...): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-kWRagllOEu: Connection refused
Jul 1 06:49:29 dell5100 kernel: [ 606.156863] nfsd: last server has exited, flushing export cache
Jul 1 06:49:31 dell5100 exiting on signal 15
Jul 1 06:50:25 dell5100 syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart.

Happens far too often, so it's a real pain. Would pay to see this fixed.

[harvest316 (harvest316)]

Forgot to mention I'm on Jaunty.
Linux dell5100 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

[harvest316 (harvest316)]

And, these were the packages installed the day before these errors started:

apache2 (2.2.11-2ubuntu2) to 2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
apache2-mpm-prefork (2.2.11-2ubuntu2) to 2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
apache2-utils (2.2.11-2ubuntu2) to 2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
apache2.2-common (2.2.11-2ubuntu2) to 2.2.11-2ubuntu2.1
hal (0.5.12~rc1+git20090403-0ubuntu1) to 0.5.12~rc1+git20090403-0ubuntu2
imagemagick (7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3) to 7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3.1
imagemagick-doc (7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3) to 7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3.1
libaprutil1 (1.2.12+dfsg-8) to 1.2.12+dfsg-8ubuntu0.1
libhal-storage1 (0.5.12~rc1+git20090403-0ubuntu1) to 0.5.12~rc1+git20090403-0ubuntu2
libhal1 (0.5.12~rc1+git20090403-0ubuntu1) to 0.5.12~rc1+git20090403-0ubuntu2
libmagickcore1 (7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3) to 7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3.1
libmagickwand1 (7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3) to 7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3.1
perlmagick (7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3) to 7:6.4.5.4.dfsg1-1ubuntu3.1
screen-profiles (1.44-0ubuntu1.1) to 1.44-0ubuntu1.2

(blame HAL?)

[pvanderploeg (pieter-nescio)]

Could it be that this problem is connected to using Totem media player? I noticed that the X restart occurs when I watch a movie with totem. I switched to VLC and ran a few movies as a test (while I was away btw) and the restart did not occur. I also noticed that VLC and Totem seem to differ in the way they handle sound. In Totem the sound from the speaker of my laptop is switched off when I plugin the headphones. In VLC I have to manually switch the speaker off, plugging in the headphone does not swich off gthe speaker. I mention this because the error message mentions something about pulseaudio.

[Stanislaw Waszkiewicz (tuwxyz)]

Dont think so. I had the same problem and no totem in the system (removed).

[pvanderploeg (pieter-nescio)]

Do you still have the problem?

2009/7/12 dev <email address hidden>

> Dont think so. I had the same problem and no totem in the system
> (removed).
>
> --
> bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with desktop session
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293970
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “bonobo” package in Ubuntu: New
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: bonobo
>
> Fourth day of use of Ubuntu 8.10. Checking /var/log/messages observed:
>
>
> Nov 5 01:06:44 cpu5 bonobo-activation-server (willie-6923): could not
> associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket
> /tmp/dbus-AGa5aGiVvG: Connection refused
> Nov 5 01:06:49 cpu5 exiting on signal 15
>
>
> No apparent derogation of system clock at the desktop, as reported on other
> threads. I have noticed that window headers do change colors or lose
> minimizing/maximazing buttons.
>

[Stanislaw Waszkiewicz (tuwxyz)]

2009/7/12 pvanderploeg <email address hidden>:
> Do you still have the problem?

I have reverted to the 8.10

[John Center (john-center)]

I'm having the same problem, usually after running an NX session remotely to my workstation. I come in the next day, & my screen saver is locked. A hard reset is the only thing that will allow me to get back in. In messages I see:

bonobo-activation-server (jcenter-31686): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-GjZOjel1tD: Connection refused

I'm running Ubuntu 9.04.

[Alex (dinesh-email)]

Same problem here on ubuntu 8.10 64bit.
Some times running out of RAM (begin to swap a lot) or when I´m closing a windows all the pc hangs up.
i cannot switch to any terminal (crtl+alt+f1) cannot restart X server with crtl+alt+backspace
i only can do login from network and reboot via command line (or turning off the pc)

in /var/log/messages i have

Sep 3 19:56:58 transwarp bonobo-activation-server (swdinesh-5367): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-EKwsoSi2K
y: Connection refused
Sep 3 19:57:01 transwarp bonobo-activation-server (swdinesh-5376): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-EKwsoSi2K
y: Connection refused

any one can help please?

thx
Alex

[tlue (tlueber)]

Same problem here on Ubuntu 9.04. I had a lot of open windows. Especially Evolution Mail and VM-Ware-Workstation. I was switching many times between VM-Guest and Host and I think Evolution wanted to pop-up a message at the same time i was switching to the VM-Guest. Eventually this helps a little bit to find the cause.

[tlue (tlueber)]

...sorry. me again:
I restarted my laptop, started evolution (first time it always asks for a wrong password), closed evolution, started evolution again (o.k.), started firefox, opened evolution a second time (to see mails in one window and calender in the other window) surfed some time, closed firefox, and got a freeze. -> VM-Ware seems not to be the cause.
-> ctrl+F1 did not work anymore -> ctrl+alt+backspace -> login again -> start evolution -> i received a calender-notification -> probably the problem arises when Evolution-calender wants to rise a notification but is not the active window or something like that.

[IKT (ikt)]

bonobo-activation-server (ikt-5164): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-rtW3p8htkh: Connection refused

Caused the whole session to restart.

[little jo (littel-jo)]

Hello,

I have the same problem in 9.10. The session reloads.
During this problem, i used gajim 0.12.5, firefox 3.5.5 and emesene 1.5.

{
tail -n2 /var/log/user.log
Nov 23 22:36:32 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-3787): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-AZhhDGwef1: Connexion refusée
Nov 23 22:36:40 jarvis-desktop pulseaudio[3898]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
}

{
/var/log/syslog :
Nov 23 22:36:27 jarvis-desktop nm-dispatcher.action: Script '/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown' exited with error status 1.
Nov 23 22:36:28 jarvis-desktop acpid: client connected from 3669[0:0]
Nov 23 22:36:32 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-3787): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-AZhhDGwef1: Connexion refusée
Nov 23 22:36:35 jarvis-desktop gdm-simple-greeter[3778]: WARNING: Unable to lookup user name d: Succès
Nov 23 22:36:40 jarvis-desktop pulseaudio[3898]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
Nov 23 22:36:44 jarvis-desktop gnome-session[3831]: WARNING: Could not launch application 'gnome-do.desktop': Unable to start application: L'exécution du processus fils « gnome-do » a échoué (Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)
}

It's the second time i have this problem :
{
Nov 20 19:12:12 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-3528): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-Vvk3NmEnOR: Connexion refusée
Nov 20 19:12:28 jarvis-desktop pulseaudio[3761]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
}

{
uname -a
Linux jarvis-desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
}

{
lspci
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP61 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI bridge (rev a1)
00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 IDE (rev a2)
00:07.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:08.1 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP61 SATA Controller (rev a2)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP61 PCI Express bridge (rev a2)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (...

[bharath (kamancharla)]

 I got this problem solved for me

 I also got into same problem after I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and it persisted even after I moved to 9.04. While doing checks after the upgrade I noticed that I was running old kernel 2.6.22.14 that came as part of my 8.04 install. I retained my old /boot/grub/menu.lst that has reference to this old kernel. I forgot to change after the upgrades. When I changed it to the latest 2.6.28.16, I stopped seeing this problem. Hence for me the root cause is wrong kernel. see if this helps you all.

[little jo (littel-jo)]

Hello,
It was a long time (one month exactly) that i haven't got this problem... But today twice X reboot this afternoon.

This morning I upgraded this package :

apparmor 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.2 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.3
apparmor-utils 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.2 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.3
avidemux 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2.1
avidemux-common 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2.1
avidemux-plugins 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2.1
gstreamer0.10-alsa 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.1 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.2
gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.1 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.2
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.1 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.2
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.1 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.2
gstreamer0.10-x 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.1 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.2
gtk2-engines-pixbuf 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
jockey-common 0.5.5-0ubuntu2 0.5.5-0ubuntu3
jockey-gtk 0.5.5-0ubuntu2 0.5.5-0ubuntu3
libapparmor1 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.2 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.3
libapparmor-perl 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.2 2.3.1+1403-0ubuntu27.3
libavidemux0 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2 1:2.5.1+repack-0ubuntu2.1
libgail18 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
libgail-common 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
libglib2.0-0 2.22.2-0ubuntu1 2.22.3-0ubuntu1
libglib2.0-data 2.22.2-0ubuntu1 2.22.3-0ubuntu1
libglib2.0-dev 2.22.2-0ubuntu1 2.22.3-0ubuntu1
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.1 0.10.25-2ubuntu1.2
libgtk2.0-0 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
libgtk2.0-bin 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
libgtk2.0-common 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
libgtk2.0-dev 2.18.3-1ubuntu2 2.18.3-1ubuntu2.1
telepathy-gabble 0.8.7-1 0.8.7-1ubuntu1

[little jo (littel-jo)]

One crash again :

/var/log/message :
Dec 23 18:32:07 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-3032): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-0BE1H6eD48: Connexion refusée
Dec 23 22:43:07 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-4183): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-7DZhTBS3sj: Connexion refusée
Dec 24 07:12:30 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-3120): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-vCaPYCEtlv: Connexion refusée

uname -a
Linux jarvis-desktop 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

[Leon Kaiser (literalka)]

Jan 16 13:29:58 kafir bonobo-activation-server (literalka-2581): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-hqNgmBbpCG: Connection refused
Jan 16 13:30:02 kafir pulseaudio[2666]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.

It logs me out, several times a day. Pretty annoying, too. :(

[Leon Kaiser (literalka)]

Oh, I'm running 9.10, too.

Jan 16 13:29:57 kafir gdm-simple-greeter[2565]: WARNING: Unable to lookup user name literalk: Success
Jan 16 13:29:57 kafir gdm-simple-greeter[2565]: WARNING: Unable to parse history: (null) 3#012
Jan 16 13:29:58 kafir bonobo-activation-server (literalka-2581): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-hqNgmBbpCG: Connection refused
Jan 16 13:30:01 kafir gdm-session-worker[2570]: pam_sm_authenticate: Called
Jan 16 13:30:01 kafir gdm-session-worker[2570]: pam_sm_authenticate: username = [literalka]
Jan 16 13:30:02 kafir pulseaudio[2666]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.

[harald (harald-net)]

Similar problem here, this could be related:

the socket in /tmp is never created for me, despite this:
harald@belial:~$ strace dbus-daemon --session --print-address
[..]
socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM, 0) = 3
bind(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@"/tmp/dbus-CMm700Tb5o"}, 23) = 0
listen(3, 30) = 0
fcntl(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR)
fcntl(3, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 0
fcntl(3, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
[..] (no further calls to fd 3)
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}], 3, -1 <unfinished ...>

during this, no /tmp/dbus- file is created ...
$ ls -l /tmp/dbus-*
   ls: cannot access /tmp/dbus-*: No such file or directory

[harald (harald-net)]

forget about the previous post, dbus is using abstract sockets, which do not show in "ls", sorry

[hipster (luc-rivet)]

Hi,

I have this problem since October. Ubuntu 9.04. It's really not comfortable to use a PC that can restart at any moment. I have the some description them other. I'm always in Firefox and there is a lot of page that use flash, so I don't know if there is a relation there.

I can add that other logs append other stuff in the same time :

messages
bowlidus bonobo-activation-server (hipster-3529): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-NF1Hf9eiJa: Connection refused

deamon.log
bowlidus gdm[2652]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/128207
http://<email address hidden>/msg374121.html

auth.log
 bowlidus gnome-keyring-daemon[3060]: dbus failure unregistering from session: Connection is closed
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/511774/+viewstatus
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1339264.html

You will find that other have the same problem under an other error log.

It should be prioritize !

Look those logs 21:43:58 :

# 2010-01-27 - 21:43:58

    * user.log
          o Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus bonobo-activation-server (hipster-3529): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-NF1Hf9eiJa: Connection refused
            Jan 27 21:44:12 bowlidus pulseaudio[3666]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
    * messages
          o Jan 27 21:43:57 bowlidus kernel: [ 515.693065] [drm] Num pipes: 1
            Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus bonobo-activation-server (hipster-3529): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-NF1Hf9eiJa: Connection refused
            Jan 27 21:43:59 bowlidus kernel: [ 517.752083] agpgart-nvidia 0000:00:00.0: AGP 3.0 bridge
            Jan 27 21:43:59 bowlidus kernel: [ 517.752106] agpgart-nvidia 0000:00:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode
            Jan 27 21:43:59 bowlidus kernel: [ 517.752179] pci 0000:03:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode

# deamon.log
    * Jan 27 21:43:57 bowlidus NetworkManager: <info> (ath0): device state change: 8 -> 3
      Jan 27 21:43:57 bowlidus NetworkManager: <info> (ath0): deactivating device (reason: 38).
      Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus gdm[2652]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
      Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus NetworkManager: <info> ath0: canceled DHCP transaction, dhcp client pid 3202
      Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus NetworkManager: <WARN> check_one_route(): (ath0) error -34 returned from rtnl_route_del(): Sucess

# auth.log

    * Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus gnome-keyring-daemon[3060]: dbus failure unregistering from session: Connection is closed
      Jan 27 21:43:58 bowlidus gdm[2652]: pam_unix(gdm-autologin:session): session closed for user hipster
      Jan 27 21:44:11 bowlidus gdm[3544]: pam_nologin(gdm:auth): cannot determine username
      Jan 27 21:44:11 bowlidus gdm[3544]: pam_unix(gdm-autologin:session): session opened for user hipster by (uid=0)

uname -a
Linux bowlidus 2.6.28-17-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 1 18:57:07 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

[hipster (luc-rivet)]

Another attachment file : lspci -vvnn > lspci-vvnn.log
Hipster

[David Robert Lewis (afrodeity)]

I can confirm same warnng in gnome-sys-log on Karmic 9.10. which may have to do with problem I am experiencing with an unresponsive nautilus session. If I change user, problem goes away. Have been unable to fix the problem by deleting .nautilus folder.

[little jo (littel-jo)]

I'm having this bug and i had removed ~/.nautilus folder.

/var/log/messages:
Feb 16 20:57:08 jarvis-desktop kernel: [ 9925.179470] firefox-bin[3952]: segfault at a5451a18 ip 003cdd1d sp a63fef64 error 4 in libpthread-2.10.1.so[3c6000+15000]
Feb 16 20:57:14 jarvis-desktop bonobo-activation-server (jarvis-4760): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-qmMWocnKUf: Connexion refusée

I use firefox 3.6 (UBUNTUZILLA)

[IKT (ikt)]

Jarvis did you upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 or was it a fresh install?

[jordilin (jordilin)]

Just got this same problem. I'm using a fresh install of Ubuntu Karmik 9.10.

could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-JkQLeZ2Kjq: Connection refused

It then logs me out straight away. I've had that kind of behaviour several times since I got Karmik. Not sure if that would be related to the graphics card, an Nvidia, as I've got karmik in other laptops (with no Nvidia) and haven't had any problems so far.

[Marcelo Farias (marcelo-farias)]

I'm having the exact same problem described by jordilin. Apparently, it only happens when I'm using Skype. I'm running a fresh 9.10 install.

[Jimmy (jimmy-axenhus)]

I got this bug too. The X session crashed without warning and I was forced to log back in again.
Attaching relevant information.

[Jimmy (jimmy-axenhus)]

By the way: I'm running Ubuntu 9.10

[Ettore Atalan (atalanttore)]

I also got this bug on Ubuntu 9.10:

The screen got black during work and after a dozen seconds the login screen appeared. After login it was like before and of course all unsaved work was unfortunately lost.

[jbowen7 (jbowen7)]

I confirm this bug also on Ubuntu 9.10.

gdm reboots leaving me at login screen.

 /var/log/messages :
bonobo-activation-server (user-2495): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-Ha2vp2XCEx: Connection refused

[Mathieu Leplatre (mathieu.leplatre)]

Ubuntu 9.10 :

I can see that Flash had crashed 7 seconds before. Screen went black, back to login, every doc opened lost.

Mar 15 17:43:31 mathieu-desktop kernel: [343744.416682] exe[24773]: segfault at b3fd4d6c ip b5501f13 sp ac4d3310 error 4 in libflashplayer.so[b5085000+994000]

Mar 15 17:43:38 mathieu-desktop bonobo-activation-server (mathieu-7749): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-1ycEWrPFsj: Connexion refusée

[Henning Thiess (thiess)]

aptitude remove gnome-screensaver

did the trick for me.

[matafe (matafe)]

I' m running on a Ubuntu Lucid Lynx in a fresh install and I had the same problem.
GDM restart send me to login and all work is lost.

I tried to remove gnome-screensaver I did not work.

May 7 08:35:50 mycomputer bonobo-activation-server (muser-2405): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5R4STE2p14: Connection refused
May 7 08:35:57 mycomputer gnome-session[2429]: WARNING: Could not launch application 'gnome-screensaver.desktop': Unable to start application: Failed to execute child process "gnome-screensaver" (No such file or directory)

Anybody find out a solution ?

Regards

[matafe (matafe)]

The problem has been happing every day on a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (i386). The gdm restart random...send me to the login screen
The output from /var/log/syslog :

May 11 08:51:31 mycomputer gdm-simple-greeter[31894]: Gtk-WARNING: /build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.0/gtk/gtkwidget.c:5636: widget not within a GtkWindow
May 11 08:51:33 mycomputer gdm-session-worker[31896]: GLib-GObject-CRITICAL: g_value_get_boolean: assertion `G_VALUE_HOLDS_BOOLEAN (value)' failed
May 11 08:51:34 mycomputer bonobo-activation-server (muser-31933): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-jjkAdpxeCV: Connection refused

Anybody ?

Regards

[Ex-Opesa (ex-opesa-deactivatedaccount)]

I am having the problem as matafe. I am also running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx)
bonobo-activation-server (xxxxxxx-11986): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-5RSDoAibbB: Connection refused

This happens daily, just random.

Anybody?

Regards,
Ex-Opesa.

[Dragoneye (dragoneye)]

After a bit of investigation. The conclusion must be that Evolution and bonobo-activation-server comes to a stalemate of some sorts. Maybe have something to do with evolution needing bonobo for syncing with aliens like MS excange and so on, the problem in the protocol (sometimes no answer).

I do recall having the little calender on the panel up while working with other programs like open office calc when i suddenly is kicked out of Xorg, just like taking a CTRL-ALT-BS .

Tank's to "lautriv" in irc channel #linux for pointing that out to me :-)

Hope this help solve this bug once and for all.

Regards

[dubst3pp4 (marc.hanisch)]

Hello,

I solved this problem by disabling ACPI in the BIOS and by deactivating the services acpid and acpi-support. Since then, I never had any dbus crashes again.

Hope this helps!

Regards

[hipster (luc-rivet)]

Hi,

I think this option is helping to solve the problem.

I restored the default setting of my BIOS and I don't have the problem
anymore. Probably the ACPI setting was disable (I will investigate. Before
that, I deactivated the acpid and acpi-support.

Luc =)

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:42 AM, marc.hanisch <email address hidden>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I solved this problem by disabling ACPI in the BIOS and by deactivating
> the services acpid and acpi-support. Since then, I never had any dbus
> crashes again.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Regards
>
> --
> bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with desktop session
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293970
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “bonobo” package in Ubuntu: New
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: bonobo
>
> Fourth day of use of Ubuntu 8.10. Checking /var/log/messages observed:
>
>
> Nov 5 01:06:44 cpu5 bonobo-activation-server (willie-6923): could not
> associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket
> /tmp/dbus-AGa5aGiVvG: Connection refused
> Nov 5 01:06:49 cpu5 exiting on signal 15
>
>
> No apparent derogation of system clock at the desktop, as reported on other
> threads. I have noticed that window headers do change colors or lose
> minimizing/maximazing buttons.
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bonobo/+bug/293970/+subscribe
>

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<email address hidden>
----------------------------
Cofondateur de Swing l'Été
http://www.swinginmontreal.com/se

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

how exactly do you disable that on your bios? sorry for my ignorance.

[bamber (bamberward)]

I am not the one who gave the instruction of how to disable bios,although I
remember someone else in the list giving instructions. Seems a bit risky!

________________________________
From: Humberto Hassey <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Sent: Thu, 26 August, 2010 0:09:41
Subject: [Bug 293970] Re: bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with
desktop session

how exactly do you disable that on your bios? sorry for my ignorance.

--
bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with desktop session
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293970
You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
of the bug.

Status in “bonobo” package in Ubuntu: New

Bug description:
Binary package hint: bonobo

Fourth day of use of Ubuntu 8.10. Checking /var/log/messages observed:

Nov 5 01:06:44 cpu5 bonobo-activation-server (willie-6923): could not associate
with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-AGa5aGiVvG:
Connection refused
Nov 5 01:06:49 cpu5 exiting on signal 15

No apparent derogation of system clock at the desktop, as reported on other
threads. I have noticed that window headers do change colors or lose
minimizing/maximazing buttons.

To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bonobo/+bug/293970/+subscribe

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

Today it is happening about every 20 minutes!!!!!

I hate it.

I confirm it happened after killing the bonovo activation server.!!!!

Using Ubuntu 10.04
and an alienware m15 x

and after killing pulseaudio, but somehow every time I kill it it came back with another pid.

I cannot use a system that crashes every 20 minutes !!!! but love linux please help!

[VL (vlinnik)]

Today, after system was updated with the latest Ubuntu updates I got it too. (see Humberto Hassey wrote on 2010-09-16: post)

I'm running:
$ uname --all
Linux xxx 2.6.32-25-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 20:05:27 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux

But I'm getting this only if I'm running
XP Professional in VMware® Workstation 7.1.1 build-282343.

Log said:
kernel: [ 269.457771] ACPI: EC: GPE storm detected, transactions will use polling mode
rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="4.2.0" x-pid="968" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed, type 'lightweight'.
kernel: [ 2110.009556] device eth0 left promiscuous mode
kernel: [ 2110.009581] bridge-eth0: disabled promiscuous mode
bonobo-activation-server (vlinnik-4600): could not associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-FwDodzzbMQ: Connection refused
..restart...

[Jay Foster (jayf0ster)]

I'm now seeing this problem for the first time, also after applying the latest update to 2.6.32.-25. I was in the middle of filling out a post in FireFox when the screen flashed and dumped me back to the login. Killed all of my open applications. I can't trust the computer anymore. Looking at the dates in this thread, it looks like this is a known problem for years with no fix. Does this affect other distros?

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

I installed 10.10 Maverick, from a fresh install, unfortunateley the condition still exists, from time to time I find myself back on the login page!.

The different thing is that I do NOT see the Bonobo activation server...... thing, any more instead this is what I logged.

ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl] (20100428/evregion-474)
Oct 8 22:33:25 M15x kernel: [ 1823.129014] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0.UBST] (Node ffff88013363eb40), AE_TIME
Oct 8 22:33:25 M15x kernel: [ 1823.129298] ACPI Error (psparse-0537): Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node ffff88013363eb00), AE_TIME
Oct 8 22:33:25 M15x kernel: [ 1823.129558] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Evaluating _BST (20100428/battery-439)

Any Ideas??

[hipster (luc-rivet)]

Hi,

I had this problem before...

What I did was reset my bios setting. I don't know what the value was
before (sorry) nor did I know what the values are now. But something in the
bios somehow change the way Ubuntu behave and I stop having this problem...

I try this after reading a post send before for this bug.

Good luck.
Luc =)

2010/10/8 Humberto Hassey <email address hidden>

> I installed 10.10 Maverick, from a fresh install, unfortunateley the
> condition still exists, from time to time I find myself back on the
> login page!.
>
> The different thing is that I do NOT see the Bonobo activation
> server...... thing, any more instead this is what I logged.
>
>
> ACPI Exception: AE_TIME, Returned by Handler for [EmbeddedControl]
> (20100428/evregion-474)
> Oct 8 22:33:25 M15x kernel: [ 1823.129014] ACPI Error (psparse-0537):
> Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0.UBST] (Node ffff88013363eb40),
> AE_TIME
> Oct 8 22:33:25 M15x kernel: [ 1823.129298] ACPI Error (psparse-0537):
> Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.BAT0._BST] (Node ffff88013363eb00),
> AE_TIME
> Oct 8 22:33:25 M15x kernel: [ 1823.129558] ACPI Exception: AE_TIME,
> Evaluating _BST (20100428/battery-439)
>
> Any Ideas??
>
> --
> bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with desktop session
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293970
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “bonobo” package in Ubuntu: New
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: bonobo
>
> Fourth day of use of Ubuntu 8.10. Checking /var/log/messages observed:
>
>
> Nov 5 01:06:44 cpu5 bonobo-activation-server (willie-6923): could not
> associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket
> /tmp/dbus-AGa5aGiVvG: Connection refused
> Nov 5 01:06:49 cpu5 exiting on signal 15
>
>
> No apparent derogation of system clock at the desktop, as reported on other
> threads. I have noticed that window headers do change colors or lose
> minimizing/maximazing buttons.
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bonobo/+bug/293970/+subscribe
>

--
Luc Rivet
<email address hidden>
Utilisateur de logiciels libres
(Ubuntu <http://www.ubuntu.com/>, Firefox <http://www.firefox.com/>, Open
Office <http://www.openoffice.org/>, Gimp <http://www.gimp.org/>)

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

How exactly do you reset your bios setting???? is that pressing F2 on startup???.

Anyway I tried using KDE instead of GNOME,

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.... Result: Worse! the system crashed more frecuently.

I might be trying a fresh Debian install.....

I do not know what to do.....

Any experiences or ideas?

[hipster (luc-rivet)]

Hi Humberto,

There is alot of diffent BIOS out there, but on my computer BIOS, I have
something like *Restore Default*... My vendor probably change my setting
before selling my computer to me.

I don't have the problem anymore.
Luc =)

2010/10/14 Humberto Hassey <email address hidden>

> How exactly do you reset your bios setting???? is that pressing F2 on
> startup???.
>
> Anyway I tried using KDE instead of GNOME,
>
> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.... Result: Worse! the system
> crashed more frecuently.
>
> I might be trying a fresh Debian install.....
>
> I do not know what to do.....
>
> Any experiences or ideas?
>
> --
> bonobo-activation-server : could not associate with desktop session
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293970
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
> Status in “bonobo” package in Ubuntu: New
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: bonobo
>
> Fourth day of use of Ubuntu 8.10. Checking /var/log/messages observed:
>
>
> Nov 5 01:06:44 cpu5 bonobo-activation-server (willie-6923): could not
> associate with desktop session: Failed to connect to socket
> /tmp/dbus-AGa5aGiVvG: Connection refused
> Nov 5 01:06:49 cpu5 exiting on signal 15
>
>
> No apparent derogation of system clock at the desktop, as reported on other
> threads. I have noticed that window headers do change colors or lose
> minimizing/maximazing buttons.
>
> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bonobo/+bug/293970/+subscribe
>

--
Luc Rivet
<email address hidden>
Utilisateur de logiciels libres
(Ubuntu <http://www.ubuntu.com/>, Firefox <http://www.firefox.com/>, Open
Office <http://www.openoffice.org/>, Gimp <http://www.gimp.org/>)

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

Seems to me that stopping the acpid service does the trick, can anyone confirm?

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

OK finally I found the solution, the problem was originated by my Nvidia Card that was trying to use the Powermizer function, I configured it to be all the time at best perfromance and that solved my problem.

Hope that helps to all of you.

[Launchpad Janitor (janitor)]

Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

[Humberto Hassey (hhasseyf)]

I just discovered that if I take the battery off my laptop, the crash does not happen any more