rename "File" in the menu to "Software"

Bug #583387 reported by ASDFASDF
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One Hundred Papercuts
Won't Fix
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Ubuntu Software Center
Invalid
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software-center (Ubuntu)
Won't Fix
Wishlist
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Bug Description

Binary package hint: software-center

In Software Center users are not actually working with files, they are managing their software collection so I think that "File" menu should be renamed to "Software" menu.
Additionaly, in the File menu user has options to Install or Remove software. File->Install sounds confusing but Software->Install makes more sense to me.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
Package: software-center 2.0.3
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.33-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic i686
Architecture: i386
Date: Thu May 20 17:31:07 2010
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100427.1)
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
 LANG=hr_HR.utf8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: software-center

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ASDFASDF (user-487-deactivatedaccount) wrote :
arky (arky)
Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
status: New → Triaged
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Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) wrote :

Thanks for the report. However, it's invalid because it's based on a misunderstanding.

The File menu in applications is not, and never was, merely about "working with files". If it had been, then right from the beginning, the first menu in word processors would have been "Document", the first menu in spreadsheet programs would have been "Spreadsheet", the first menu in drawing programs would have been "Drawing", and so on. This wouldn't achieve anything, except making the menu harder to recognize at a glance, and harder to use with the keyboard.

"File" is a verb, just like "Edit", "View", "Format", "Insert", and so on are. It's about filing and organizing whatever primary object the program deals with. In the case of an e-mail program, it's e-mail messages and folders. In the case of an image editor, it's an image. In the case of Ubuntu Software Center, it's software.

Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → Invalid
Changed in software-center:
status: New → Invalid
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ASDFASDF (user-487-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Here's a patch renaming File menu to Software menu for the current bzr version (rev 52 lp:ubuntu/software-center)

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ASDFASDF (user-487-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

I see your explanation now, sorry for misunderstanding.

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ASDFASDF (user-487-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

The cause of misunderstanding is that File, View, Tools, Help and similar terms are always translated as a noun, at least in Croatian.

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ASDFASDF (user-487-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

I think this bug should be reconsidered.

According to Gnome HIG :
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en#the-file-menu

"If your application does not operate on documents, name this item for the type of object it displays. For example, many games should have a Game instead of a File menu."

Also worth mentioning:
 - Totem: Movie menu
 - Rhythmbox: Music menu
 - Banshee: Media menu
 - F-Spot: Photo menu

BTW I checked several other language files (including Spanish, French, Russian and German) and I can see using my unscientific online dictionary skills that they also translate File as a noun.

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Vish (vish) wrote :

There is a HIG revision sprint at Guadec in two weeks , and MPT is going to try and get that part of the HIG updated.

Marking bug as incomplete for now..

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
status: New → Incomplete
Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
status: Invalid → Incomplete
Changed in software-center:
status: Invalid → Incomplete
tags: added: patch
Leo Arias (elopio)
tags: added: patch-forwarded-upstream
removed: patch
Andrew (and471)
Changed in software-center:
status: Incomplete → Invalid
Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
status: Incomplete → Opinion
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Chris Wilson (notgary-deactivatedaccount) wrote :

Vish, what was the outcome of the HIG revision sprint? Has there been an update that affects this bug, or is it still the same?

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Vish (vish) wrote :

Well, mpt is not interested in this change

Changed in hundredpapercuts:
status: Incomplete → Won't Fix
Changed in software-center (Ubuntu):
status: Opinion → Won't Fix
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