inconsistant naming

Bug #1448158 reported by Glotzbach on 2015-04-24
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Bug Description

The programme is inconsistently named:
- at the homepage it is called "ANoise" (while the tagline confusingly is 'Ambient Noise Player' - as a programme description I would change it into "An ambient noise player")
- also in the preferences window it is called "ANoise"
- on Launchpad it is called "Ambient Noise Player"
- under the sound indicator it is called "Ambient Noise"

I would personally stick with ANoise at all locations.

Glotzbach (glotzbach) on 2015-04-24
description: updated
costales (costales) wrote :

Thanks for your feedback Glotzbach :) But I'm afraid that I'll not change those points. As resume it could be:
Long name: Ambient Noise Player
Short name: ANoise

> homepage it is called "ANoise" (while the tagline confusingly is 'Ambient Noise Player' - as a programme description I would change it into "An ambient noise player")

I think that is right to use both of them :)
Why "An"? I'm talking about ANoise, I'm not talking about other players :)

> preferences window it is called "ANoise"

I need a short title for a small window :$ Then I'm getting the short name.

> Launchpad it is called "Ambient Noise Player"

But code name is anoise too.

> under the sound indicator it is called "Ambient Noise"

The sound indicator should to use the long name as "VLC media player". The entry launcher will be the same.

Best regards and I'm so sorry.

Changed in anoise:
status: New → Won't Fix
Glotzbach (glotzbach) wrote :

Thanks for considering it :)
Just a quick reply here

> Why "An"? I'm talking about ANoise, I'm not talking about other players :)
Just to explain myself: In case it were an advertising slogan (which apparently it isn't), adding an article makes it sound better. Adding 'the' would show the uniqueness of ANoise.

> I need a short title for a small window :$ Then I'm getting the short name.
Fair enough :)

> The sound indicator should to use the long name as "VLC media player". The entry launcher will be the same.
If it should use the long name (Ambient Noise Player, as you say), and it currently doesn't (it uses 2/3 of the long name), then that's a 'bug', right?

> Thanks for considering it :)

You're welcome :)

> Just to explain myself: In case it were an advertising slogan (which
apparently it isn't), adding an article makes it sound better. Adding 'the'
would show the uniqueness of ANoise.

I'm not agree with that :) Because you don't see "The Firefox
webbrowser"/"A Firefox webbrowser" in the launcher, by example :)

> > The sound indicator should to use the long name as "VLC media player".
> The entry launcher will be the same.
> If it should use the long name (Ambient Noise Player, as you say), and it
> currently doesn't (it uses 2/3 of the long name), then that's a 'bug',
> right?
>

I'm getting the same as the preinstalled sound app: Rhythmbox. It's showing
"Rhythmbox", not "Rhythmbox Player".
Rhythmbox is from GNOME, then "Ambient Noise" or "Ambient Noise Player" is
the same for me :P

Thanks a lot for your feedback, I really appreciate it!

Glotzbach (glotzbach) wrote :

> > Just to explain myself: In case it were an advertising slogan (which
> apparently it isn't), adding an article makes it sound better. Adding 'the'
> would show the uniqueness of ANoise.
>
> I'm not agree with that :) Because you don't see "The Firefox
> webbrowser"/"A Firefox webbrowser" in the launcher, by example :)

There seems to be a language barrier here. Let me try to explain myself one more time:

I am talking about a descriptive line, something that says what the programme is, not about naming the programme. Taking your example: indeed you don' t see " The/A Firefox web browser" , but you *do* see [Firefox:] [white line] "The/A fast and flexible web browser".
Similarly, you would not see "The/An ANoise" but you *would* see [ANoise:] [white line] "An ambient noise player". Here, the line would explain what the programme does, but you have a different intention (naming, not describing).

In any case: I guess we actually do agree. I was only trying to explain how I misunderstood your intention, and saying that I actually understand and agree with you now I know your intention :S

---

Then, here I don't understand your argumentation here:

> The sound indicator should to use the long name as "VLC media player".
First you want to have the longer name, but now it seems you want to have an middle-long name (without 'player')?

> I'm getting the same as the preinstalled sound app: Rhythmbox. It's showing "Rhythmbox", not "Rhythmbox Player"
You're not really getting the same as Rythmbox:
- Rythmbox is only called Rythembox, without anything else. 'Player' is not part of the name, "Rythmbox player" would not be correct.
- based on your earlier response, you would either use "ANoise" (short name) or "Ambient Noise Player" (long name). Now a weird mix is used: you did not mention "Ambient Noise" as a name for the programme (comment #1).

Your earlier comparison is better: VLC has two names: "VLC" and "VLC media player". Similar would be "ANoise" and "Ambient Noise Player". With VLC, 'player' is *part of the long name*, with Rythmbox, 'player' is *not part* of the name.

> Rhythmbox is from GNOME, then "Ambient Noise" or "Ambient Noise Player" is the same for me :P
Huh, what does GNOME have to do with it? :P

Why not stick to your initial response:
> resume it could be:
> Long name: Ambient Noise Player
> Short name: ANoise

Would be great for consistency and smart from a marketing perspective to put either the long or the short name in the sound menu. And consequently: drop the third name. As a communications student, an app (or organisation or anything else) with three names for the exact same thing is ridiculous to me :)

Sorry to keep on going about this, but I feel the argumentation is flawed (or put differently: I don' t understand your line of reasoning). These kind of things annoy me ;)

costales (costales) wrote :

I was thinking in this, and I think you're right about 3 names :)
Dropped "Ambient Noise Player", because the users already know that it is a player ;)

> at the homepage it is called "ANoise", while the tagline confusingly is 'Ambient Noise Player':

Changed to "ANoise" & "Ambient Noise" every where.

> also in the preferences window it is called "ANoise"

It'll persist as ANoise

> on Launchpad

Changed to ANoise

> under the sound indicator

It'll persist as "Ambient Noise"

Really thanks a lot for your feedback @glotzbach :)

Glotzbach (glotzbach) wrote :

You're welcome and thank you for being open to feedback! :)

costales (costales) on 2015-05-12
Changed in anoise:
status: Won't Fix → Fix Committed
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