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Bug #733349
Comment #199

Comment 199 for bug 733349

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eZFlow (breakdevize) wrote on 2011-11-04: Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon

#199

The design flaw is in the core of their organisation so i have moved on for
the better. Chakra project puts Ubuntu to shame in every aspect. KDE is
many times faster, more mature and miles more advanced then GNOME will ever
be. I have never experienced such a smooth desktop before and i always
thought its because of the drivers or the X server but the problem lies
within GNOME.

I recommend everyone who likes choice and customization to switch to KDE.
Ubuntu treats their community like crap so they absolutely dont deserve
anything back. Once Ubuntu starts loosing users, they will think twice and
i for one am not recommending Ubuntu anymore.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Kewball <email address hidden> wrote:

> This attitude of "moving on" with no real explanation and no real
> acknowledgement of the dissenters' position or proposed solutions shows
> a stifling, group-think bureaucracy and reveals a brittle organization
> that is actively rejecting the very people who were early adopters and
> promoters of the Brand.
>
> The official condescension would be bad enough if the technical design
> were correct, but the "design" being questioned here is clearly wrong.
>
> Whether double-clicks, multiple-clicks, or Morse-code-clicks accomplish
> the action is important but not quite the point: the design flaw is that
> the *nix tradition of the end user having the freedom (yes, freedom) to
> change the behavior of the software is being decided by... who? The 26
> committers? The 15-member focus group? Certainly not the many people
> who have taken the time and effort to point out an important issue here
> on launchpad.net.
>
> Ubuntu have decided Unity the only desktop environment. Ubuntu have
> decided Launcher will have default actions. Ubuntu have decided
> Launcher will have no user-modifiable behaviors, no configurable
> "double-click-to-minimize" settings.
>
> Ubuntu's "my way or the highway" attitude, expressed here and realized
> in the Launcher code is the design flaw.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349
>
> Title:
> Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
>
> Status in Ayatana Design:
> Won't Fix
> Status in Unity:
> Won't Fix
> Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu:
> Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to
> click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of
> that application, not only to launch/restore it.
> mlaverdiere's futher addition:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2
>
> My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like
> this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!):
>
> 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet;
> *2) restore it, if it is minimized;
> *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus
> yet;
> 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows
> open;
> *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4).
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions
>

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Kewball <51@triopticon.com> wrote:

> This attitude of "moving on" with no real explanation and no real
> acknowledgement of the dissenters' position or proposed solutions shows
> a stifling, group-think bureaucracy and reveals a brittle organization
> that is actively rejecting the very people who were early adopters and
> promoters of the Brand.
>
> The official condescension would be bad enough if the technical design
> were correct, but the "design" being questioned here is clearly wrong.
>
> Whether double-clicks, multiple-clicks, or Morse-code-clicks accomplish
> the action is important but not quite the point: the design flaw is that
> the *nix tradition of the end user having the freedom (yes, freedom) to
> change the behavior of the software is being decided by... who?  The 26
> committers?  The 15-member focus group?  Certainly not the many people
> who have taken the time and effort to point out an important issue here
> on launchpad.net.
>
> Ubuntu have decided Unity the only desktop environment.  Ubuntu have
> decided Launcher will have default actions.  Ubuntu have decided
> Launcher will have no user-modifiable behaviors, no configurable
> "double-click-to-minimize" settings.
>
> Ubuntu's "my way or the highway" attitude, expressed here and realized
> in the Launcher code is the design flaw.
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349
>
> Title:
>  Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
>
> Status in Ayatana Design:
>  Won't Fix
> Status in Unity:
>  Won't Fix
> Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu:
>  Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
>  What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to
> click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of
> that application, not only to launch/restore it.
>  mlaverdiere's futher addition:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2
>
>  My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like
>  this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!):
>
>  1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet;
>  *2) restore it, if it is minimized;
>  *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus
> yet;
>  4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows
> open;
>  *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4).
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions
>