Mathieu, you are correct, upstart makes it hard to know what's hanging since it's happening in parrallel in a non deterministic fashion, and it's not like I can run ps at that time.
I originally filed this against upstart, because quite franlky upstart does not make it easy to see what the problem is.
I however think the problem is with the network-manager init script. I think when I had
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
It would sometimes bring try to bring up eth0 when it wasn't plugged in, and hang.
Note that there are 5 pictures:
I very seldom boot my laptop, especially now that it randomly does not complete booting, and honestly I can't tell for sure which process hangs upstart but it looks like it's network-manager
Mathieu, you are correct, upstart makes it hard to know what's hanging since it's happening in parrallel in a non deterministic fashion, and it's not like I can run ps at that time.
I originally filed this against upstart, because quite franlky upstart does not make it easy to see what the problem is.
I however think the problem is with the network-manager init script. I think when I had
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
It would sometimes bring try to bring up eth0 when it wasn't plugged in, and hang.
Note that there are 5 pictures:
boot with --debug launchpadlibrar ian.net/ 37077999/ 100_upstart_ picts.jpg launchpadlibrar ian.net/ 37078016/ 101_upstart_ picts.jpg
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http://
boot without --debug launchpadlibrar ian.net/ 37095414/ StallPict1a. jpg launchpadlibrar ian.net/ 37095417/ StallPict1b. jpg
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http://
boot that happened not to hang: launchpadlibrar ian.net/ 37095427/ NonStall. jpg
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I very seldom boot my laptop, especially now that it randomly does not complete booting, and honestly I can't tell for sure which process hangs upstart but it looks like it's network-manager