ndiswrapper should be in contrib

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #289065 http://bugs.debian.org/289065

[Brian Nelson (pyro)]

On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> Package: ndiswrapper
> Severity: serious
> Tags: sarge, sid
>
> Hi,
>
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> > > Apparently the dickhead maintainer of ndiswrapper-source has just gone
> > > into his shell and refuses to discuss this problem.
> >
> > Btw, could anyone explain why ndiswrapper is in main? It's only use
> > is to run propritary windows drivers inside the linux kernel, so it's
> > a clear fit for contrib.

Since when does usage matter? frozen-bubble's only use is to waste
time. My time isn't free, so remove it from main!

--
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[Roberto C. Sanchez (roberto-familiasanchez)]

Brian Nelson wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
>
>>Package: ndiswrapper
>>Severity: serious
>>Tags: sarge, sid
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently the dickhead maintainer of ndiswrapper-source has just gone
>>>>into his shell and refuses to discuss this problem.
>>>
>>>Btw, could anyone explain why ndiswrapper is in main? It's only use
>>>is to run propritary windows drivers inside the linux kernel, so it's
>>>a clear fit for contrib.
>
>
> Since when does usage matter? frozen-bubble's only use is to waste
> time. My time isn't free, so remove it from main!
>

 From the policy manual:

2.2.2 The contrib section

Every package in contrib and non-US/contrib must comply with the DFSG.

In addition, the packages in contrib and non-US/contrib

     * must not be so buggy that we refuse to support them, and
     * must meet all policy requirements presented in this manual.

Furthermore, packages in contrib must not require a package in a non-US
section for compilation or execution.

Examples of packages which would be included in contrib or
non-US/contrib are:

     * free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages
which are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution, and
     * wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free
programs.

"wrapper" is even in the name. It's only useful function is to
facilitate the use of a non-free program.

-Roberto Sanchez

[Roberto C. Sanchez (roberto-familiasanchez)]

Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> From the policy manual:
>
> 2.2.2 The contrib section
>
> Every package in contrib and non-US/contrib must comply with the DFSG.
>
> In addition, the packages in contrib and non-US/contrib
>
> * must not be so buggy that we refuse to support them, and
> * must meet all policy requirements presented in this manual.
>
> Furthermore, packages in contrib must not require a package in a non-US
> section for compilation or execution.
>
> Examples of packages which would be included in contrib or
> non-US/contrib are:
>
> * free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages
> which are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution, and
> * wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free
> programs.
>
>
> "wrapper" is even in the name. It's only useful function is to
> facilitate the use of a non-free program.
>

Replying to myself here. I just read some newer messages in the thread.
I retract my statement, as I was unaware of free drivers that could be
used in conjunction with ndiswrapper.

-Roberto Sanchez

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Automatically imported from Debian bug report #289065 http://bugs.debian.org/289065

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 00:42:07 +0100
From: Rene Engelhard <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: ndiswrapper should be in contrib

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Package: ndiswrapper
Severity: serious
Tags: sarge, sid

Hi,

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> > Apparently the dickhead maintainer of ndiswrapper-source has just gone=
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> > into his shell and refuses to discuss this problem.
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> Btw, could anyone explain why ndiswrapper is in main? It's only use
> is to run propritary windows drivers inside the linux kernel, so it's
> a clear fit for contrib.

ACK.

Gr=FC=DFe/Regards,

Ren=E9
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:52:38 -0800
From: Brian Nelson <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>,
 <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: ndiswrapper should be in contrib

On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> Package: ndiswrapper
> Severity: serious
> Tags: sarge, sid
>
> Hi,
>
> Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> > > Apparently the dickhead maintainer of ndiswrapper-source has just gone
> > > into his shell and refuses to discuss this problem.
> >
> > Btw, could anyone explain why ndiswrapper is in main? It's only use
> > is to run propritary windows drivers inside the linux kernel, so it's
> > a clear fit for contrib.

Since when does usage matter? frozen-bubble's only use is to waste
time. My time isn't free, so remove it from main!

--
For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you!

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 18:56:13 -0500
From: Roberto Sanchez <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: ndiswrapper should be in contrib

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Brian Nelson wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:42:07AM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
>
>>Package: ndiswrapper
>>Severity: serious
>>Tags: sarge, sid
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently the dickhead maintainer of ndiswrapper-source has just gone
>>>>into his shell and refuses to discuss this problem.
>>>
>>>Btw, could anyone explain why ndiswrapper is in main? It's only use
>>>is to run propritary windows drivers inside the linux kernel, so it's
>>>a clear fit for contrib.
>
>
> Since when does usage matter? frozen-bubble's only use is to waste
> time. My time isn't free, so remove it from main!
>

 From the policy manual:

2.2.2 The contrib section

Every package in contrib and non-US/contrib must comply with the DFSG.

In addition, the packages in contrib and non-US/contrib

     * must not be so buggy that we refuse to support them, and
     * must meet all policy requirements presented in this manual.

Furthermore, packages in contrib must not require a package in a non-US
section for compilation or execution.

Examples of packages which would be included in contrib or
non-US/contrib are:

     * free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages
which are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution, and
     * wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free
programs.

"wrapper" is even in the name. It's only useful function is to
facilitate the use of a non-free program.

-Roberto Sanchez

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 18:59:25 -0500
From: Roberto Sanchez <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: ndiswrapper should be in contrib

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Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> From the policy manual:
>
> 2.2.2 The contrib section
>
> Every package in contrib and non-US/contrib must comply with the DFSG.
>
> In addition, the packages in contrib and non-US/contrib
>
> * must not be so buggy that we refuse to support them, and
> * must meet all policy requirements presented in this manual.
>
> Furthermore, packages in contrib must not require a package in a non-US
> section for compilation or execution.
>
> Examples of packages which would be included in contrib or
> non-US/contrib are:
>
> * free packages which require contrib, non-free packages or packages
> which are not in our archive at all for compilation or execution, and
> * wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free
> programs.
>
>
> "wrapper" is even in the name. It's only useful function is to
> facilitate the use of a non-free program.
>

Replying to myself here. I just read some newer messages in the thread.
I retract my statement, as I was unaware of free drivers that could be
used in conjunction with ndiswrapper.

-Roberto Sanchez

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[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

Not relevant to Ubuntu

[Andres Salomon (dilinger-deactivatedaccount)]

On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 00:42 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
[...]
>
> ACK.
>
> Grüße/Regards,
>
> René

I think it's been sufficiently explained on d-d;
a) there are free drivers available, and
b) it provides an ndis interface to the kernel

I'm going to close this unless you disagree (in which case we should
move this to -legal).

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Andres Salomon <email address hidden>

[Debian Bug Importer (debzilla)]

Message-Id: <1105073391.10556.1.camel@localhost>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:49:51 -0500
From: Andres Salomon <email address hidden>
To: Rene Engelhard <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#289065: ndiswrapper should be in contrib

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On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 00:42 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:
[...]
>=20
> ACK.
>=20
> Gr=FC=DFe/Regards,
>=20
> Ren=E9

I think it's been sufficiently explained on d-d;
a) there are free drivers available, and
b) it provides an ndis interface to the kernel

I'm going to close this unless you disagree (in which case we should
move this to -legal).

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Andres Salomon <email address hidden>

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[Andres Salomon (dilinger-deactivatedaccount)]

Hi,

I'll assume your lack of response means you agree. Closing this..

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Andres Salomon <email address hidden>

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Message-Id: <1105502514.7504.9.camel@localhost>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:01:54 -0500
From: Andres Salomon <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: ndiswrapper should be in contrib

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Hi,

I'll assume your lack of response means you agree. Closing this..

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Andres Salomon <email address hidden>

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