I come from Debian and certainly I understand very well your point.
That's why I gave the solution I gave. MPlayer can decode MP3 through some
different libraries. The default one is buggy. I simply changed to another
one and it works for me and for some other folks. Yes, this other library
may be broken at some other cases, that's why I believe this
codecs.confchange I suggested should be applied to gutsy and tested.
Let it there for
let's say 2 weeks. If no one complains about this MP3 issue on gutsy, there
you have a working solution to import to feisty.
I just believe that hundreds of users losing hours of their lives with
things that does not work is a thing that should be avoided. Well, this is
very known bug, right? What about use debconf to give all users who install
the software a hint about this issue, and that there is no current
workarround for it? Of course we are talking of software outside Ubunu's
main stream software, but users still use it anyway.
Until now, no one pointed why my solution is bad, will break everything at
all or some other bad thing. I just think it should be given a try. I think
the beauty of FOSS is this kind of argue on how to make things better, and
that's what I am trying to do here.
I guess I already made my point, there is no need for me to repeat myself in
the future. I already have a working system myself, I just want to avoid
problems to other people and give them a smoother Ubuntu experience.
Thank you for your patient email Raster, sometimes it is good to give this
kind of attention.
On 8/14/07, Raster <email address hidden> wrote:
>
> I'm the creator of DeVeDe and the "patch" based in version 0.99Pre8 for
> Mplayer/Mencoder.
>
> I can understand that people just wants a system that "simply works",
> but maybe we don't have the right perspective about this problem.
>
> The current stable version for Mplayer/Mencoder is 1.0rc1. This version
> is exactly the same available in both Feisty and Gutsy. This version has
> this unfortunate bug, both the Ubuntu package and the official tar.gz
> file from www.mplayerhq.hu. Since the release of this version,
> Mplayer/Mencoder developers have been working in the CVS and fixed this
> bug there. Unfortunately in the CVS are a lot of changes, new
> capabilities and more, and the code isn't considered stable. This means
> that the package maintainer can't take the CVS version and use it to
> create the Gutsy package, because is very probable that it has even more
> bugs than the current version. An example: before using the old 0.99pre8
> version in my patch, I used the CVS code. Yes, this bug was fixed, but
> people trying to create PAL DVDs found that, in some cases, the final
> picture was in black&white!!!!! When trying to fix the old bug, a new
> one was added. That's why I decided to go back and use the old 0.99Pre8
> version. It was much more tested and stable.
>
> A package maintainer must be very careful with these things, and that's
> why he don't want to use the current CVS version. And as he told some
> messages ago, the specific patch to fix this bug is somewhere in the CVS
> history, and is very complex to find and isolate it, to warrant that
> there are no new bugs, so I suppose he is waiting for a new stable
> release of Mplayer/Mencoder (1.0rc2, I suppose), to minimize the
> possibles regressions. And I suppose that he can't go back to the old
> 0.99pre8 because to do that he would use a trick to cheat APT and force
> it to install a lower version.
>
> So please, stop with these attacks to the maintainer. I'm sure he is
> trying to do its work the best he can.
>
> --
> Distorted MP3 sound
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/85751
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
Hello Raster,
I come from Debian and certainly I understand very well your point.
That's why I gave the solution I gave. MPlayer can decode MP3 through some
different libraries. The default one is buggy. I simply changed to another
one and it works for me and for some other folks. Yes, this other library
may be broken at some other cases, that's why I believe this
codecs.confchange I suggested should be applied to gutsy and tested.
Let it there for
let's say 2 weeks. If no one complains about this MP3 issue on gutsy, there
you have a working solution to import to feisty.
I just believe that hundreds of users losing hours of their lives with
things that does not work is a thing that should be avoided. Well, this is
very known bug, right? What about use debconf to give all users who install
the software a hint about this issue, and that there is no current
workarround for it? Of course we are talking of software outside Ubunu's
main stream software, but users still use it anyway.
Until now, no one pointed why my solution is bad, will break everything at
all or some other bad thing. I just think it should be given a try. I think
the beauty of FOSS is this kind of argue on how to make things better, and
that's what I am trying to do here.
I guess I already made my point, there is no need for me to repeat myself in
the future. I already have a working system myself, I just want to avoid
problems to other people and give them a smoother Ubuntu experience.
Thank you for your patient email Raster, sometimes it is good to give this
kind of attention.
On 8/14/07, Raster <email address hidden> wrote: /bugs.launchpad .net/bugs/ 85751
>
> I'm the creator of DeVeDe and the "patch" based in version 0.99Pre8 for
> Mplayer/Mencoder.
>
> I can understand that people just wants a system that "simply works",
> but maybe we don't have the right perspective about this problem.
>
> The current stable version for Mplayer/Mencoder is 1.0rc1. This version
> is exactly the same available in both Feisty and Gutsy. This version has
> this unfortunate bug, both the Ubuntu package and the official tar.gz
> file from www.mplayerhq.hu. Since the release of this version,
> Mplayer/Mencoder developers have been working in the CVS and fixed this
> bug there. Unfortunately in the CVS are a lot of changes, new
> capabilities and more, and the code isn't considered stable. This means
> that the package maintainer can't take the CVS version and use it to
> create the Gutsy package, because is very probable that it has even more
> bugs than the current version. An example: before using the old 0.99pre8
> version in my patch, I used the CVS code. Yes, this bug was fixed, but
> people trying to create PAL DVDs found that, in some cases, the final
> picture was in black&white!!!!! When trying to fix the old bug, a new
> one was added. That's why I decided to go back and use the old 0.99Pre8
> version. It was much more tested and stable.
>
> A package maintainer must be very careful with these things, and that's
> why he don't want to use the current CVS version. And as he told some
> messages ago, the specific patch to fix this bug is somewhere in the CVS
> history, and is very complex to find and isolate it, to warrant that
> there are no new bugs, so I suppose he is waiting for a new stable
> release of Mplayer/Mencoder (1.0rc2, I suppose), to minimize the
> possibles regressions. And I suppose that he can't go back to the old
> 0.99pre8 because to do that he would use a trick to cheat APT and force
> it to install a lower version.
>
> So please, stop with these attacks to the maintainer. I'm sure he is
> trying to do its work the best he can.
>
> --
> Distorted MP3 sound
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>
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