Comment 47 for bug 192505

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In , melaren (me-laren) wrote :

"Creating a cleaner UI means moving a few things and cutting a few things. For
instance: Safari doesn't even have a home button by default. I agree that not
all users are going to quickly adapt to this relocation, but if it really
bothers them they do have access to a customization palette."

...the first thing many of us do is remove the bookmarks toolbar. I did just this, 5 minutes later I was wondering what happened to the home button. I did a Google search. ...found out that the button was moved. I went to customize, the button wasn't available, so I had to re-enable the bookmarks toolbar, go back to customize, drag the icon to its proper position, and then once again disable the bookmarks toolbar. This reminds me of something that Microsoft would do. ..and has done with IE7.

A cleaner UI is rubbish if it means a decrease in usability. The home button is very frequently used, and moving it will only piss people off. ...people like us can work around it, but users like my parents are completely thrown off by simple "UI" changes like this. Safari shouldn't be the standard either... There is a reason I use Firefox on my Mac, and the missing home button was an annoyance when I used Safari. ...we definitely shouldn't make changes based on what MS does with IE7. IE7's interface is a disaster.

Many people use the home button much more often than forward button (like those of us who have a Google/iGoogle homepage), does that mean we should remove/move "forward" to clean up the UI? The Firefox UI isn't cluttered. Please don't sacrifice usability. ...and if you guys are going to move buttons around that have been there since the dawn of time, you need better reasons than:

-Safari doesn't have a home button
and IE7 moved it to the far right

-Novice users are not likely to use anything other than the default chrome, and
if the bookmarks toolbar is turned off we won't move the button (purpose of
this bug)

-Positioning the button directly under the back button and in the most viewed
area of the window (upper left) is actually a more prominent placement than the
button's previous position

But don't take my word for it, a recent [p]review by PCWorld:
"One not-so-nice change: Mozilla has moved the Home button off of the Navigation toolbar and onto the Bookmarks toolbar. This may have freed up some real estate on the Navigation toolbar, but it means that if you normally hide the Bookmarks toolbar (which I do), you no longer have access to your Home button. The change does not make much sense."

Sorry for writing a book.