Comment 157 for bug 123064

I made my own packages of Eclipse and a bunch of plugins using the
release tarballs from eclipse.org:
https://edge.launchpad.net/~yogarine/+archive/ppa

I did this because from my experience installing Eclipse and then
installing all the plugins you want is always a big hassle that can
take up a whole hour. Why go to all that trouble if you can just type:

sudo apt-get install eclipse-pdt

Just give my ppa a try and I'm sure you'll like the idea.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Oli <email address hidden> wrote:
> Caesar, that's really dangerous thinking there. Those same arguments could
> be levelled against lots of other mature apps that have their own
> ecosystems... Surely you wouldn't suggest not packaging (for example)
> Firefox?
>
> We use packages for a good reason: it keeps things sturdy and constant
> between similar machines and results in a standardised install process you
> can script for any machine. It also, psychologically speaking, instils an
> ethos of installing things from a trusted source. Downloading things from
> all-over the internet is one reason why the security landscape is so mired
> on Windows.
>
> You might try and say that Eclipse appeals to a different audience but
> looking at Add/Remove, it's is one of the most popular packages in the
> package popularity contest for the Programming section, only beaten outright
> by Python (for obvious reasons). People want it and they want to get it from
> Ubuntu's repositories.
>
> I don't deny that downloading and untarring Eclipse from eclipse.org works
> but that's not the point. Eclipse is major software that thousands (if not
> millions) of people use. "It's a waste of time" doesn't seem like a valid
> argument.
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Caesar <email address hidden> wrote:
>
>> Oli, I think the reason this will never be done is really simple: not
>> having elcipse package is not a problem.
>>
>> At all.
>>
>> It's really easy to install eclipse manually, It have it's own internal
>> update, plugins installation and dependency resolving system. Same time,
>> any "external" update and plugins installation are complex, unreliable
>> and... just never worse the time spent on them vs. simplicity of eclipse
>> manual installation and self-update.
>>
>> Who want to kill days or even weeks on the problem that can be solved in
>> other way in 5 minutes?
>>
>> Just forget about the eclipse package. Anyone who need it will be able
>> to install manually.
>>
>> --
>> Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4.2
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123064
>> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> of the bug.
>>
>
> --
> Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4.2
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123064
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

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