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  1. Bug #123064
  2. Comment #155

Comment 155 for bug 123064

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Oli (oli) wrote : Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4.2

Caesar, that's really dangerous thinking there. Those same arguments could
be levelled against lots of other mature apps that have their own
ecosystems... Surely you wouldn't suggest not packaging (for example)
Firefox?

We use packages for a good reason: it keeps things sturdy and constant
between similar machines and results in a standardised install process you
can script for any machine. It also, psychologically speaking, instils an
ethos of installing things from a trusted source. Downloading things from
all-over the internet is one reason why the security landscape is so mired
on Windows.

You might try and say that Eclipse appeals to a different audience but
looking at Add/Remove, it's is one of the most popular packages in the
package popularity contest for the Programming section, only beaten outright
by Python (for obvious reasons). People want it and they want to get it from
Ubuntu's repositories.

I don't deny that downloading and untarring Eclipse from eclipse.org works
but that's not the point. Eclipse is major software that thousands (if not
millions) of people use. "It's a waste of time" doesn't seem like a valid
argument.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Caesar <email address hidden> wrote:

> Oli, I think the reason this will never be done is really simple: not
> having elcipse package is not a problem.
>
> At all.
>
> It's really easy to install eclipse manually, It have it's own internal
> update, plugins installation and dependency resolving system. Same time,
> any "external" update and plugins installation are complex, unreliable
> and... just never worse the time spent on them vs. simplicity of eclipse
> manual installation and self-update.
>
> Who want to kill days or even weeks on the problem that can be solved in
> other way in 5 minutes?
>
> Just forget about the eclipse package. Anyone who need it will be able
> to install manually.
>
> --
> Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4.2
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123064
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