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Comment 6 for bug 886302

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Alex Cockell (alcockell) wrote on 2011-11-07: Re: [Bug 886302] Re: [needs-packaging] - Adobe Flash 10.3.183.10 - as Flash 11 current breaks BBC iPlayer for NVIDIA ION-equipped netbooks

But it means i have to buy a new computer to watch iplayer content.

Please could canonical and the bbc discuss.. This breaks an entire class of machines.

----- Original message -----
> Breaking a single site that is incompatible with the present version
> does not make the unavailability of the previous version a non-wishlist
> bug. The bug is either in the BBC site's flash content or in Flash 11.
> This is a genuine wishlist item and I hope it is "fixed" but it is
> certainly nothing more than that, judging from the description you have
> provided.
>
> Furthermore, all needs-packaging requests are given wishlist importance,
> regardless of how positive the consequences would be of addressing them
> (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs/NeedsPackagingBugs for
> details).
>
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> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
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>
> Title:
> [needs-packaging] - Adobe Flash 10.3.183.10 - as Flash 11 current
> breaks BBC iPlayer for NVIDIA ION-equipped netbooks
>
> Status in Ubuntu:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> With Flash 11 current version and package, Adobe stripped out all the
> experimental accelerated rendering support for NVIDIA ION and other
> NVIDIA chipsets. While Youtube will happily roll back to software accel
> for NVIDIA users, iPlayer won't. Results seen are.... Video
> compressed, then tries to expand... then freezes completely, then
> iPlayer will not play out video at all - but no issues with audio.
>
> Effectively, iPlayer is completely unusable if on Intel Atom+NVIDIA
> equipment running Ubuntu 10.04 and Flash 11. This is a massive
> regression and dealbreaker for British Ubuntu users.
>
> The BBC recently updated their playback client, relying on Stage 3D
> logic to present the transport controls as an overlay - interacting
> with issues in the Linux version of Flash 11; Windows and Mac have
> this acceleration logic, according to their own release notes.
>
> Intel chipsets (reliant on software) are perfectly OK.
>
> Accelerated rendering WAS available in Flash 10.3 and the beta
> versions of Flash 11.
>
> The BBC also now stipulate that Flash 10.1 is the minimum version
> required to play content on iPlayer - the only backout Force Install
> option offered is Flash 10.0.42 or thereabouts.
>
> Please could you arrange packaging of Adobe Flash 10.3 -
>
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_other_Linux_(.tar.gz)
>
> .. so that a functional backward option is available?
>
> This issue also may help with issues on 4OD as well.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> My kit - Lenovo Ideapad S12, Ubuntu 10.04LTS with all updates.
>
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But it means i have to buy a new computer to watch iplayer content.

Please could canonical and the bbc discuss.. This breaks an entire class of machines.

----- Original message -----
> Breaking a single site that is incompatible with the present version
> does not make the unavailability of the previous version a non-wishlist
> bug. The bug is either in the BBC site's flash content or in Flash 11.
> This is a genuine wishlist item and I hope it is "fixed" but it is
> certainly nothing more than that, judging from the description you have
> provided.
> 
> Furthermore, all needs-packaging requests are given wishlist importance,
> regardless of how positive the consequences would be of addressing them
> (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Specs/NeedsPackagingBugs for
> details).
> 
> -- 
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
> report.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/886302
> 
> Title:
>     [needs-packaging] - Adobe Flash 10.3.183.10 - as Flash 11 current
>     breaks BBC iPlayer for NVIDIA ION-equipped netbooks
> 
> Status in Ubuntu:
>     New
> 
> Bug description:
>     With Flash 11 current version and package, Adobe stripped out all the
> experimental accelerated rendering support for NVIDIA ION and other
> NVIDIA chipsets.   While Youtube will happily roll back to software accel
> for NVIDIA users, iPlayer won't.   Results seen are....   Video
> compressed, then tries to expand... then freezes completely, then
> iPlayer will not play out video at all - but no issues with audio.
> 
>     Effectively, iPlayer is completely unusable if on Intel Atom+NVIDIA
>     equipment running Ubuntu 10.04 and Flash 11.   This is a massive
>     regression and dealbreaker for British Ubuntu users.
> 
>     The BBC recently updated their playback client, relying on Stage 3D
>     logic to present the transport controls as an overlay - interacting
>     with issues in the Linux version of Flash 11; Windows and Mac have
>     this acceleration logic, according to their own release notes.
> 
>     Intel chipsets (reliant on software) are perfectly OK.
> 
>     Accelerated rendering WAS available in Flash 10.3 and the beta
>     versions of Flash 11.
> 
>     The BBC also now stipulate that Flash 10.1 is the minimum version
>     required to play content on iPlayer - the only backout Force Install
>     option offered is Flash 10.0.42 or thereabouts.
> 
>     Please could you arrange packaging of Adobe Flash 10.3 -
>   
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_other_Linux_(.tar.gz)
> 
>     .. so that a functional backward option is available?
> 
>     This issue also may help with issues on 4OD as well.
> 
>     
>     Thanks
> 
>     My kit - Lenovo Ideapad S12, Ubuntu 10.04LTS with all updates.
> 
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/886302/+subscriptions