Comment 10 for bug 886302

Probably not, but while unsupported, an option to fix at Flash 10.2 or 10.3 until Adobe reintroduce Stage Video (whatever they call it) would enable low power machines to actually *use* iPlayer, Youtube, Demand5, 4OD and other streaming video-on-Flash smoothly. this is the crux of the issue. A stopgap... Yes... But a needed one. and much better a package so nothing breaks when accepting the upgrade to 12.04.

either that or whitelist Totem-plugins for full H264 from the Beeb and other broadcasters... So nvidia+atom users can actually USE their kit.

----- Original message -----
> Using Flash 10 instead of Flash 11 will break the (probably now
> hundreds, if not thousands) of websites that only work with Flash 11,
> either because they use features only present in major version 11, or
> because they trigger bugs that were fixed in major version 11 (or in
> some incremental release after that). Using Flash 10 is therefore not a
> generally good solution to the problem of this one website not working.
> The goal of making Flash work better for users in general would not be
> served significantly by fixing this bug, and the goal of making Flash
> work better for users in your specific situation, while it would be
> served by fixing this, would not be served particularly well.
>
> That is not to say that this bug should not be fixed. It might well be
> the case that there is significant benefit to giving users the ability
> and option to choose Flash 10 (packaged for Ubuntu) as well as Flash 11
> (packaged for Ubuntu). I am not convinced that this is the case, but I
> hope this post should not be taken as an argument against it.
>
> Either the website should be fixed, or Flash 11 should be fixed
> (depending on which contains the bug). If the website is fixed, then no
> one needs to update anything. If Flash 11 is fixed, the update will
> presumably be available to all users of all supported Ubuntu releases,
> including Ubuntu 12.04 LTS once it's out (whether the fix happens before
> or after its release). This is because Adobe Flash is proprietary and
> there is no way for Ubuntu developers to backport just fixes for
> security vulnerabilities and serious security/stability bugs, creating
> Ubuntu-specific versions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates).
> Since this cannot be done, updates to Flash in Ubuntu get new features
> (and new bugs) as well as fixes for serious bugs.
>
> Have you actually replaced Flash 11 on your system with Flash 10 to see
> if that actually fixes the problem on the BBC website?
>
> "Also, am thinking of other users as well. And when or if Adobe manage
> to get Stage Video/3D/whatever sorted - would prefer to just accept the
> update through Update Manager..."
>
> Are you saying you think Adobe will release additional updates for Flash
> 10 providing major functionality changes?
>
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> Title:
>    [needs-packaging] - Adobe Flash 10.3.183.10 - as Flash 11 current
>    breaks BBC iPlayer for NVIDIA ION-equipped netbooks
>
> Status in Ubuntu:
>    New
>
> Bug description:
>    With Flash 11 current version and package, Adobe stripped out all the
> experimental accelerated rendering support for NVIDIA ION and other
> NVIDIA chipsets.  While Youtube will happily roll back to software accel
> for NVIDIA users, iPlayer won't.  Results seen are....  Video
> compressed, then tries to expand... then freezes completely, then
> iPlayer will not play out video at all - but no issues with audio.
>
>    Effectively, iPlayer is completely unusable if on Intel Atom+NVIDIA
>    equipment running Ubuntu 10.04 and Flash 11.  This is a massive
>    regression and dealbreaker for British Ubuntu users.
>
>    The BBC recently updated their playback client, relying on Stage 3D
>    logic to present the transport controls as an overlay - interacting
>    with issues in the Linux version of Flash 11; Windows and Mac have
>    this acceleration logic, according to their own release notes.
>
>    Intel chipsets (reliant on software) are perfectly OK.
>
>    Accelerated rendering WAS available in Flash 10.3 and the beta
>    versions of Flash 11.
>
>    The BBC also now stipulate that Flash 10.1 is the minimum version
>    required to play content on iPlayer - the only backout Force Install
>    option offered is Flash 10.0.42 or thereabouts.
>
>    Please could you arrange packaging of Adobe Flash 10.3 -
>
> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_other_Linux_(.tar.gz)
>
>    .. so that a functional backward option is available?
>
>    This issue also may help with issues on 4OD as well.
>
>
>    Thanks
>
>    My kit - Lenovo Ideapad S12, Ubuntu 10.04LTS with all updates.
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