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Bug #11334
Comment #279

Comment 279 for bug 11334

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Bartolomeo Nicolotti (bart-nicolotti) wrote on 2012-01-28: Re:[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

#279

Hello,

I think that this is a very important comment, that should be taken in account by Linux/GNU developers to improve this wonderful Open Source System I've use at work for 5 years (five years) with no problem, after all copy-paste can be also a bad thing and I've worked happily for 5 years even if this bug seems very strange for a system that has given me much less headache than Microsoft Word. I've written two important documents longer than 30 pages with Microsoft Word and this "perfect" program that I paid with good money refused to print both after page 30, I've had to use open office for free and everything worked... I bought an external CD burner in 2000 in a Mac store for a iMac OS 8.6, it burned 1 CD then I got always errors... If you want to feed Microsoft and Mac you can, I will feed the penguin.

Best regards

> 3esmit (3esmit) wrote on 2012-01-26: #271
> "We like linux, we believe in an open source future, where open source
> is the best. We want all to be perfect, we dont want Mac."
>
> I like beautiful girls. I believe in an open future, where open
> relationships are the best and I can have sex with every girl I see,
> without her boyfriend wanting to shoot me.
>
> What do my perfect future and your perfect future have in common?
> They're both never going to happen. Open source has no future and open
> source will never be the best.
>
> Eric B (eric-broszeit) wrote on 2012-01-26: #273
> "For the most part, this has been fixed. Only a few applications are still
> listed, and I would not be surprised if they are fixed as well. I don't use
> them to check."
>
> No, only a few applications actually do work. Most application don't
> work and will never work. Do you now how many applications are available
> in Ubuntu Software Centre? Install all of them, every single application
> and start testing all of them. Then there are applications which aren't
> even available in Ubuntu Software Centre. Start testing those
> applications too. A clipboard should work for EVERY application, not
> just a part of the applications which are installed by default.
>
> That's why it shouldn't be fixed on a per-app basis, but it should be
> fixed in the core. That's how it works in other operating systems and
> that's how it belongs to work. In Mac OS X and Windows you can install
> every application you want and it doesn't matter where the application
> comes from, it just works, without the developer of the application
> having to think about implementing a clipboard. That's how it should
> work!
>
> You can expect from all developers to implement a clipboard. That's why
> only a few application for Linux have the clipboard implemented. Just
> search for replies from a person called pyrates in this bug report. He
> knows what he's talking about. He's one the few who knows how it should
> be implemented and who's able to explain why the current implementation
> is so bad and completely wrong.
>
> ScislaC (scislac) wrote 20 hours ago: #274
> "Or one could install a clipboard manager... your "only" solution isn't really the only solution."
>
> Clipboard managers don't work properly. They crash and don't support
> everything which can be copied (they only support text or text and
> files, but it should support everything: text, files, images, parts of
> an audio file, parts cut from a movie). Most of them aren't updated
> anymore. The developer started its project five years ago, never
> finished it. It's designed for a five years old Linux distribution and
> it haven't been updated ever since. No one is maintaing those clipboard
> managers, so you just can't rely on them.
>
> An operating should have a proper working clipboard of its own. You just
> install the operating system and then install whatever application you
> like and it should just work, without the need of installing a clipboard
> manager, without the need to keep the source window open and without
> developers having to implement a clipboard in their applications. That's
> something you open source idiots just don't understand... correction:
> don't want to understand.
>
> --
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334
>
> Title:
> MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the
> paste
>
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Hello,

Best regards

> 3esmit (3esmit) wrote on 2012-01-26: 	#271
> "We like linux, we believe in an open source future, where open source
> is the best. We want all to be perfect, we dont want Mac."
> 
> I like beautiful girls. I believe in an open future, where open
> relationships are the best and I can have sex with every girl I see,
> without her boyfriend wanting to shoot me.
> 
> What do my perfect future and your perfect future have in common?
> They're both never going to happen. Open source has no future and open
> source will never be the best.
> 
> Eric B (eric-broszeit) wrote on 2012-01-26: 	#273
> "For the most part, this has been fixed. Only a few applications are still
> listed, and I would not be surprised if they are fixed as well. I don't use
> them to check."
> 
> No, only a few applications actually do work. Most application don't
> work and will never work. Do you now how many applications are available
> in Ubuntu Software Centre? Install all of them, every single application
> and start testing all of them. Then there are applications which aren't
> even available in Ubuntu Software Centre. Start testing those
> applications too. A clipboard should work for EVERY application, not
> just a part of the applications which are installed by default.
> 
> That's why it shouldn't be fixed on a per-app basis, but it should be
> fixed in the core. That's how it works in other operating systems and
> that's how it belongs to work. In Mac OS X and Windows you can install
> every application you want and it doesn't matter where the application
> comes from, it just works, without the developer of the application
> having to think about implementing a clipboard. That's how it should
> work!
> 
> You can expect from all developers to implement a clipboard. That's why
> only a few application for Linux have the clipboard implemented. Just
> search for replies from a person called pyrates in this bug report. He
> knows what he's talking about. He's one the few who knows how it should
> be implemented and who's able to explain why the current implementation
> is so bad and completely wrong.
> 
> ScislaC (scislac) wrote 20 hours ago: 	#274
> "Or one could install a clipboard manager... your "only" solution isn't really the only solution."
> 
> Clipboard managers don't work properly. They crash and don't support
> everything which can be copied (they only support text or text and
> files, but it should support everything: text, files, images, parts of
> an audio file, parts cut from a movie). Most of them aren't updated
> anymore. The developer started its project five years ago, never
> finished it. It's designed for a five years old Linux distribution and
> it haven't been updated ever since. No one is maintaing those clipboard
> managers, so you just can't rely on them.
> 
> An operating should have a proper working clipboard of its own. You just
> install the operating system and then install whatever application you
> like and it should just work, without the need of installing a clipboard
> manager, without the need to keep the source window open and without
> developers having to implement a clipboard in their applications. That's
> something you open source idiots just don't understand... correction:
> don't want to understand.
> 
> -- 
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> duplicate bug report (430563).
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334
> 
> Title:
>   MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the
>   paste
> 
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>