News Cycle

Bug #1168669
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Comment 2 for bug 1168669

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Denis Moyogo Jacquerye (moyogo) wrote on 2013-05-29: Re: [Bug 1168669] Re: wrong hooks

Historically speaking U+028B and its uppercase U+01B2 is a
straightened italic round v or script v. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPA_consonant_chart_(pre-1912).png
or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPA_chart_(1951).png
The only way to differentiate it from U and Ʊ is by having a straight
stroke on the left and a round one on the right terminating with an
inward hook, whereas U has two straight strokes and Ʊ has two round
strokes with horizontal strokes similar to serifs on top. Ʋ/ʋ can have
a serif on the left if that helps differentiation.

The straight vs round strokes, hook vs normal terminal, and optional
left serif help differentiating the letters.
The poor naming in Unicode has generated wrong glyphs in many fonts,
even though there is a note "script v".

If News Cycle had angular C, J, O, Q or U it would be fine to have an
angular Ʋ/ʋ, since it is a round letter, it should be as the other
round letters.

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Nathan Willis <email address hidden> wrote:
> ACK on 0193; I feel like I used to have that done; may be victim of a flipped reference.
> ACK on 01B3; durn Unicoders....
> Question on 01B2 -- I see other typefaces use a pretty un-upsilon-like V as the base; is there no room for stylistic variation there? [See DejaVu Sans, for example] Because I worry about being too rounded; there's potential for confusion with 016E or 01B1 (examples only), since ATF News Gothic is pretty angular about so many capital forms.
>
> Note that that's not a NAK; I'd really like to know where the limits
> are....
>
> ** Changed in: newscycle
> Assignee: (unassigned) => Nathan Willis (n8)
>
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African Network for Localisation http://www.africanlocalisation.net/
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DejaVu fonts --- http://www.dejavu-fonts.org/

If News Cycle had angular C, J, O, Q or U it would be fine to have an
angular Ʋ/ʋ, since it is a round letter, it should be as the other
round letters.

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Nathan Willis <nwillis@glyphography.com> wrote:
> ACK on 0193; I feel like I used to have that done; may be victim of a flipped reference.
> ACK on 01B3; durn Unicoders....
> Question on 01B2 -- I see other typefaces use a pretty un-upsilon-like V as the base; is there no room for stylistic variation there? [See DejaVu Sans, for example]  Because I worry about being too rounded; there's potential for confusion with 016E or 01B1 (examples only), since ATF News Gothic is pretty angular about so many capital forms.
>
> Note that that's not a NAK; I'd really like to know where the limits
> are....
>
> ** Changed in: newscycle
>      Assignee: (unassigned) => Nathan Willis (n8)
>
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> Title:
>   wrong hooks
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Denis Moyogo Jacquerye
African Network for Localisation http://www.africanlocalisation.net/
Nkótá ya Kongó míbalé --- http://info-langues-congo.1sd.org/
DejaVu fonts --- http://www.dejavu-fonts.org/