Crashes of Indetermined cause, no backups generated

[hechz]

I am creating a 600x375px document which has a background that consists of a true color bitmap (jpg). I then create a layer above for the text, etc. I have now had to redo this work four times because Inkscape will suddenly crash mercilessly. It kindly informs of the name of the backup directory.

However, I do not find it anywhere one might expect (%USERPROFILE%AppData\Roaming\Inkscape, %SYSTEMROOT%\Windows\Temp). The lack of back-up has stymied me, alas the adage of "Saver early and often" falls by the wayside when one is in "creative" mode.

Brass-tacks->1. See if autobackups do work
                        2. Provide direction for debugging under Windows (don't ask...)

[Alvin Penner (apenner)]

if you are on Windows, then the support for .jpg has been improved significantly since the release of Inkscape 0.46.
would you be willing to try a development release, available at :
http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/

[hechz (mars-photosphere)]

Sure thing.... installing now

Alvin Penner wrote:
> if you are on Windows, then the support for .jpg has been improved significantly since the release of Inkscape 0.46.
> would you be willing to try a development release, available at :
> http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/
>
>

[hechz (mars-photosphere)]

Inline to this top-posted response you will find a screenshot of the
development release of Inkscape running on my Windows Machine. None of
the widget graphics are rendering for the toolbars.

Installed from here:
Inkscape21345-0905140303.7z
<http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/Inkscape21345-0905140303.7z>

Result:

Alvin Penner wrote:
> if you are on Windows, then the support for .jpg has been improved significantly since the release of Inkscape 0.46.
> would you be willing to try a development release, available at :
> http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/
>
>

[Alvin Penner (apenner)]

hmm, that is exactly the same version that I am running on my XP, with no problem.
couple of questions:
- is this Vista? kind of looks like it. If so, I found that it was necessary to make sure that you run 7zip file manager as an administrator, so you can control where the installation goes, preferably into the directory C:\Program Files\Inkscape\.
- is this installed directly on top of the existing version, to overwrite it? I think that is preferable, although that may just be superstition on my part.

[hechz (mars-photosphere)]

I did, of course, do that... I have gotten abused to UAC. I did decompress
into the extant directory, and force overwrites

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 13:58, Alvin Penner <email address hidden> wrote:

> hmm, that is exactly the same version that I am running on my XP, with no
> problem.
> couple of questions:
> - is this Vista? kind of looks like it. If so, I found that it was
> necessary to make sure that you run 7zip file manager as an administrator,
> so you can control where the installation goes, preferably into the
> directory C:\Program Files\Inkscape\.
> - is this installed directly on top of the existing version, to overwrite
> it? I think that is preferable, although that may just be superstition on my
> part.
>
> --
> Crashes of Indetermined cause, no backups generated
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/378669
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.
>

[Alvin Penner (apenner)]

well, I'm at a loss. I am not very familiar with Vista (only sufficiently familiar with it to know that I would never knowingly or willingly use it on my own computer), but I have a version of Inkscape from about a week ago running successfully on Vista. It might be worth it to try an installation into the directory C:\Program Files\Inkscape\, since this is a more 'normal' location for it.
    Also you can sometimes trap interesting error messages or warnings by running Inkscape from a DOS prompt using the methods outlined at :
http://kaioa.com/node/63

[hechz (mars-photosphere)]

I shall run it from the cli... Any clue on the missing graphical
elements in the development release?

On May 20, 2009, at 18:49, Alvin Penner <email address hidden> wrote:

> well, I'm at a loss. I am not very familiar with Vista (only
> sufficiently familiar with it to know that I would never knowingly
> or willingly use it on my own computer), but I have a version of
> Inkscape from about a week ago running successfully on Vista. It
> might be worth it to try an installation into the directory C:
> \Program Files\Inkscape\, since this is a more 'normal' location for
> it.
> Also you can sometimes trap interesting error messages or
> warnings by running Inkscape from a DOS prompt using the methods
> outlined at :
> http://kaioa.com/node/63
>
> --
> Crashes of Indetermined cause, no backups generated
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/378669
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of the bug.

[Alvin Penner (apenner)]

- two questions, have all your Inkscape installations been done into the same directory, or have you used more than one location for installation? Maybe it is not finding files that used to exist in earlier installations.
- you can give it a fresh start by going to the directory C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Inkscape
and renaming the preferences.xml file. This will force it to redefine all the defaults as though it was the first time.
- other than that all I can think of is to re-install the 0.46 stable version to get the icons back and then unzip the new development version on top of this. The icons are all in a file called \Inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg

[hechz (mars-photosphere)]

see responses inline

Alvin Penner wrote:
> - two questions, have all your Inkscape installations been done into the same directory, or have you used more than one location for installation? Maybe it is not finding files that used to exist in earlier installations.
>
All've been done into C:\Program Files\Inkscape, as additive operations

> - you can give it a fresh start by going to the directory C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Inkscape
> and renaming the preferences.xml file. This will force it to redefine all the defaults as though it was the first time.
>

WillCo
> - other than that all I can think of is to re-install the 0.46 stable version to get the icons back and then unzip the new development version on top of this. The icons are all in a file called \Inkscape\share\icons\icons.svg
>
>
'Twas the procedure used this time!

I shall proceed apace.

[Alex Valavanis (valavanisalex)]

Hi Hechz, it has been a while since there was any activity on this report. Do you still experience the bug in Inkscape 0.47? If so, would you be able to attach the jpg background image and give a series of steps which we can use to reproduce the bug?

[audrey (audreyr)]

I am experiencing similar crashes (Inkscape 0.47 r22583, built Feb 13 2010, Ubuntu 9.04).

There are 2 parts to this:

1. It happens when I'm editing a sub-sub-path (i.e. a path within a group within a group) and then click the + (new layer) button without first selecting the Layers panel. I choose "Above current" and click "Add", then either I get a crash or I get a sub-sub-layer of the current layer, where the sub-layer is named something like "g4394-3-1".

2. As for the lack of backups: I see one file located at /tmp/inkscape- but it is a different file that was also open, and there is no backup of the current file. I don't know if this is because I had 2 files open or if it's just a coincidence - I didn't look into it further.

[su_v (suv-lp)]

@audrey - the layer issue (sub-layer added inside the current group or crash) should be filed separately as new bug (ideally with a file that causes Inkscape to crash).

[ I can reproduce that the new layer is unexpectedly created as sub-layer of the layer, inside the group that has been entered, but have not seen crashes while testing (Inkscape 0.47 and 0.47+devel r9529 on OS X). ]

[Kris (kris-degussem)]

No reaction received from reporter.
Hence closing the bug as invalid.
If you would reencounter the bug, please revert the status.

Subgroup-layer issue (issue 1 comment 11) is unrelated and will be tracked separately.