Keyboard layout change on hotkeys press instead of release and do not work well with shortcuts (reopen)
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Bug Description
From duplicate bug 1720364 report.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Install ubuntu-mate-desktop on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with HWE (Xorg 1.19.5), or 17.10 or 18.04 LTS.
2. Set-up two keyboard layouts - English and Russian
3. Set <Ctrl+Shift> as keyboard layout switcher in mate-control-center
4. Try to use shortcuts starting from <Ctrl+Shift>:
4.1. Open Firefox, open new tab, go to some site in it, close tab, try to click <Ctrl+Shift+T> to restore closed tab.
4.2. Open mate-terminal, try to open new tab with <Ctrl+Shift+T>, or copy (<Ctrl+Shift+C>), or paste (<Ctrl+Shift+V>).
4.3. Open pluma, write some text, try to navigate in it with <Ctrl+Shift+arrow>.
Expected results:
<Ctrl+Shift> switches keyboard layout, shortcuts starting from <Ctrl+Shift+...> work normally.
Actual results:
<Ctrl+Shift> switches keyboard layout, shortcuts starting from <Ctrl+Shift+...> do not work.
Notes:
1. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xorg 1.18.4) with Marco and Compton work normally with <Ctrl+Shift> keyboard layout switcher.
2. This problem was discovered before on 13.10, 14.04 and other modern versions with GNOME desktop (Metacity and Compiz) - see bug 1245473.
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Original description below:
This is a reopen of bug #36812, which has reappeared in Kubuntu 17.04 Zesty Zapus.
This is a bug about shortcuts mapped to combinations which include each other.
For example, if we have Ctrl+Shift (for keyboard layout) and Ctrl+Shift+N (to open a new terminal), then we are practically unable to use the second shortcut; this is what happens:
Ctrl press (nothing happens)
Shift press (keyboard layout change)
N (a simple N appears, since a shortcut has already fired)
The expected behavior is to fire shortcuts on the release (not on press) of the special keys (ctrl,shift,alt, etc) which is also how Windows behave. This is a serious problem for bilingual layouts, typically using Alt+Shift or Ctrl+Shift for keyboard layout change.
Apparently, the bug has reappeared after the patch that used to fix the problem (208_switch_
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.04
Package: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.19.3-1ubuntu1
Uname: Linux 4.9.0-22.
NonfreeKernelMo
ApportVersion: 2.20.4-0ubuntu4
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: KDE
Date: Mon Apr 17 17:46:35 2017
InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-01 (716 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" - Release amd64 (20150422)
SourcePackage: xorg-server
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to zesty on 2017-04-16 (1 days ago)
| Lastique (andysem) wrote : | #1 |
| Timo Aaltonen (tjaalton) wrote : | #3 |
And if you had a look at the upstream bug you'd see that the patch doesn't work. It needs to get upstream first anyway.
| Alex Ee (bibi4k0) wrote : | #4 |
I had the same problem.
| tlk (sarcasticskull) wrote : | #5 |
Timo Aaltonen (tjaalton) wrote 10 hours ago: #3
And if you had a look at the upstream bug you'd see that the patch doesn't work. It needs to get upstream first anyway.
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1) It's just one (incomplete) report that it doesn't. I'll try the patch myself soon.
2) The previous patch wasn't in upstream either, yet Ubuntu maintainers did absolutely right to accept it IMO.
3) AFAIK Xorg people rejected this change outright (that is? after some prolonged explanaitons what the actual problem was - shows that they just don't have the issue thus don't care too much).
3) Yet people shouldn't be held hostage because the proposed behavior breaks the XKB spec - without (? AFAIK) a single confirmed case of it breaking any real world X client.
| Lastique (andysem) wrote : | #6 |
> And if you had a look at the upstream bug you'd see that the patch doesn't work.
I can see that someone reported it to not work for one-key combinations (e.g. Ctrl). I believe, the previous patch that was removed had the same limitation, and it was "good enough".
We need to see if it works for two-key combinations (e.g. Ctrl+Alt or Alt+Shift).
> It needs to get upstream first anyway.
It's unlikely to be accepted into XKb for the same reasons as the previous patch. This ticket is a request to add the patch to Ubuntu packages because this is a real problem that affects people.
| MKorvin (guitarmaster-play) wrote : | #7 |
Same problem, waiting for fix.
| flux242 (flux242) wrote : | #8 |
please apply the old patch. Let the 17.04 work as the 16.10. Screw the upstream because it could take ages for them to decide
| tlk (sarcasticskull) wrote : | #9 |
Thats the problem - the old patch doesn't work for the newer Xorg server.
AFAIU the upstream won't accept this anyway.
Thus it's the matter of testing the patch and getting it into Ubuntu. AFAIK Ubuntu was the only major distro that applied the old patch. Was yet another reason to use it.
| MKorvin (guitarmaster-play) wrote : | #10 |
I have arch linux installed on another PC and Xorg server from https:/
| ainur (ainureg) wrote : | #11 |
I have it since yesterday, when i decided to update x-server packages
404 sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core xserver-
405 sudo apt-get install xserver-
| Andrey Vetlugin (antrew) wrote : | #12 |
This annoying bug takes my linux user experience 15 years back to 2002. Is there a way to make Ubuntu great again? Are there any known workarounds for this bug?
| Vavooon (vavooon) wrote : | #13 |
Meanwhile I can suggest a partial workaround for the problem:
You can map layout switching to LEFT Ctrl+Shift and right keys will be available for using with shortcuts.
| tlk (sarcasticskull) wrote : | #14 |
Not exactly a bug, it's just how it works by default and that is what the xkb specs supposedly say. So this behavior dates way back certainly more that 15 yrs ))
And the fix was incorporated by Ubuntu only a couple of yrs ago certainly not in 2002 )))
The 'workaround' suggested above is what I use btw. And what have used on other distros.
| kolya (mar-kolya) wrote : | #15 |
That patch that fixes the problem has been applied in Ubuntu for way more than 'couple of years'
Unfortunately using right keys for modifiers doesn't work well with people who use 10 finger typing - they are used to press certain keys with certain fingers - to speed up their typing, and using wrong hand slows things down and leads to errors. Some modifier-heavy apps - like Emacs become very inconvenient if used with wrong modifier keys.
| tlk (sarcasticskull) wrote : | #16 |
well yeah more than a couple. I actually remember when I got fed up with this and went looking on the net what can be done and later found out that Ubuntu would accept the patch - I was on another distro then. just don't remember when exactly.
I do the 10 fingers typing but even if you don't it's annoying.
| ainur (ainureg) wrote : | #17 |
btw
here is solution
i can translate if anyone wants
https:/
| tlk (sarcasticskull) wrote : | #18 |
сАлюшн пересобрать руками с патчем? хабра такая хабра.
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| importance: | Undecided → Wishlist |
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| importance: | Unknown → High |
| status: | Unknown → In Progress |
| Artem Kovalov (artemkovalov) wrote : | #19 |
Пересобрать таки помогло) Аж выдохнул. Жаль, что мейнтейнеры ppa не обновляют оперативно билды для свежих релизов.
| Anton Petrusevich (apetr) wrote : | #20 |
Please return the patch back!
| Igor Kostromin (elw00d) wrote : | #21 |
manual patching recipe (thx Artem Kovalov) for Ubuntu 16.04.3
https:/
I uploaded deb to https:/
| Pavel (spvkgn) wrote : | #22 |
I uploaded xorg-server 1.19.3 packages for 17.04 with included patch from https:/
| Pavel (spvkgn) wrote : | #23 |
Also .deb files are available for download here https:/
| Jacob Becker (jabecker) wrote : | #24 |
I uploaded xorg-server 1.19.3 packages for 16.04.3 i386 with included patch from https:/
| Jacob Becker (jabecker) wrote : | #25 |
Here's my script based on the gist mentioned on comment #21
https:/
It tries to be generic. It uses a separate configuration file for each platform, which means it is extensible. It is still apt-based, though.
| Vitaliy (velnik) wrote : | #26 |
I had the same problem.
Ubuntu Mate 16.04.3 LTS
| A (zorn-v) wrote : | #27 |
My script based on Jacob's one.
https:/
It removes all packages installed for build (with prompt).
Patch downdload commented out.
Bolow this line is the cry of the soul
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It is IDIOTISM. It's need to recompile WHOLE X.ORG for simple behavior whose should be in some config at least.
Many dislikes and curse to upstream mainteiners. AFAIK this bug since 200X. THIS IS SHAME.
You can put your important opinion in the...
Yes, I don't respect you as you don't respect users (and distro mainteiners) of your lib.
| A (zorn-v) wrote : | #28 |
Also works on 17.10 BTW.
| A (zorn-v) wrote : | #29 |
Now I understand why "libs" like wayland appears. X.org SUCKS.
| Changed in xorg-server: | |
| status: | In Progress → Confirmed |
| V-ctor (radioengineer) wrote : | #30 |
How to make it works on 17.10?
There is no package xserver-
I did this:
1. sudo apt install devscripts
2. apt-get build-dep xorg-server
3. apt source xserver-xorg-core
4. wget https:/
5 cd xkb
6. patch < attachment.
7. debuild -us -uc
and got:
# Make sure Xvfb at least starts up
PATH=debian/
debian/
install debian/
make[1]: выход из каталога «/home/
debian/rules override_dh_install
make[1]: вход в каталог «/home/
# dh_install --fail-missing
dh_install --list-missing
dh_install: Please use dh_missing --list-
dh_install: This feature will be removed in compat 11.
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
/home/victor/
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| Norbert (nrbrtx) wrote : | #31 |
This bug is a duplicate of well known bug 1245473 .
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| tags: | added: bionic |
In case you don't need to switch between keyboard layouts, you can get some shortcuts working again if you use the "Tweaks" tool for Gnome.
sudo apt install gnome-tweak-tool
Then
1. Open "Tweaks"
2. Select the tab "Keyboard & Mouse"
3. Click "Additional Layout Options"
4. Disable entries in the "Switching to another layout" dialog
In my case this gave me back the "ALT + SHIFT" combinations which are essential in the Eclipse IDE for refactoring.
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(In reply to k0fe from comment #185)
> (In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new
> > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable
> > option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant
> > protocol or working hotkeys.
>
> Where is the link to the patch? Where is the instruction like how to apply
> this patch? And how can this comment be used by an ordinary user (without
> knowledge of programming) to solve this problem?
As an ordinary Gentoo Linux user, I:
- download patch attached to this issue named "The same patch, but based on 1.19.1 (fixed)" into directory /etc/portage/
- run `emerge xorg-server` to reinstall Xorg with this patch applied
- restart X to enjoy working hotkeys :)
If users of other Linux distributions have issues with this - probably they just didn't use "newer Linux". </sarcasm>
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#234 |
(In reply to Kovács Viktor from comment #181)
> Sorry, on newer Linux you can set up hot key combination for that problem as
> graphical UI settings, older Linux versions will not be updated. May I close
> It?
Please do not close this bug. If you do not want to receive any further updates on it, you can unsubscribe by removing yourself from the Cc list.
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#235 |
(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #186)
> (In reply to k0fe from comment #185)
> > (In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> > > There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new
> > > (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable
> > > option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant
> > > protocol or working hotkeys.
> >
> > Where is the link to the patch? Where is the instruction like how to apply
> > this patch? And how can this comment be used by an ordinary user (without
> > knowledge of programming) to solve this problem?
>
> As an ordinary Gentoo Linux user, I:
> - download patch attached to this issue named "The same patch, but based on
> 1.19.1 (fixed)" into directory /etc/portage/
> - run `emerge xorg-server` to reinstall Xorg with this patch applied
> - restart X to enjoy working hotkeys :)
>
> If users of other Linux distributions have issues with this - probably they
> just didn't use "newer Linux". </sarcasm>
I'd like to thank you! And great thanks to kyak for the patch!
I confirm that it works for me on "older" Gentoo and xorg-server 1.9.5.
There seems to have been a proposed protocol extension (comment #159 etc.) Can anyone shed light, for the outside user, as to the current status of this proposal? Thanks.
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| assignee: | nobody → Alex (alexvaa) |
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#237 |
(In reply to Zebediah Figura from comment #189)
> Can anyone shed light, for the outside user, as to the current status of
> this proposal? Thanks.
No news since. Apart from the formal proposal, there are some old patches for its implementation:
https:/
https:/
https:/
https:/
https:/
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(In reply to Andreas Wettstein from comment #190)
> No news since. Apart from the formal proposal, there are some old patches
> for its implementation:
> https:/
> https:/
> https:/
> https:/
> https:/
Here's what I think we would need to do in order to not break old clients:
https:/
Another, probably better, way to do it would be to define a new flag like XkbSA_HasGroupFlags inside the XkbModAction flags field when group_flags and group_XXX are valid rather than potentially garbage. That would avoid the whole version-negotiation nightmare, as nothing appears to be too picky about extra flags being defined.
Five years later, it would also be good to have support inside libxkbcommon (which has a pretty decent test suite) and xcb-proto for the flags.
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| Raycho Raykov (raycho-raykov) wrote : | #33 |
I patched my Lubuntu 16.04 with the mentioned upward patch few hours ago and everything starts working perfectly. I also tested Linux Mint 18.3 with Cinnamon and everything works as expected without any patches. The problem exists in Ubuntu MATE 16.04 too. All these are 64 bit versions. The patch is created correctly: when I released first button from the sequence, the sequence is executed. This way when I switching locales and keep Shift pressed (I'm using Alt+Shift) I can start writing with capital letter. I hope this information is helpful.
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(In reply to Alex Efros from comment #184)
> There is a patch, working good enough for years without creating any new
> (practical) issues. In comment #161 is was proposed to make it configurable
> option to make everyone happy and let users choose between using compliant
> protocol or working hotkeys.
(In reply to Aliaksei Urbanski from comment #188)
> I'd like to thank you! And great thanks to kyak for the patch!
> I confirm that it works for me on "older" Gentoo and xorg-server 1.9.5.
I could to say, that this patch does not work exactly as expected. See, please, my comment #146 for explanation. So I think, this thread could not be closed.
Another user here voting for this bug to get patched OFFICIALLY from upstream.
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#241 |
Did you changed your opinion after for years of not fixing this bug?
Users still need this functionality (see https:/
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#242 |
All current Ubuntu versions are affected and RHEL too. And nobody cares.
14 years of doing nothing. My congratulations!
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#243 |
(In reply to Daniel Stone from comment #191)
> Another, probably better, way to do it would be to define a new flag like
> XkbSA_HasGroupFlags inside the XkbModAction flags field when group_flags and
> group_XXX are valid rather than potentially garbage. That would avoid the
> whole version-negotiation nightmare, as nothing appears to be too picky
> about extra flags being defined.
>
> Five years later, it would also be good to have support inside libxkbcommon
> (which has a pretty decent test suite) and xcb-proto for the flags.
This comment lays out the best way forward for anyone interested to fix this bug. It shouldn't be too difficult, but personally I haven't worked on X11 for quite some time.
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Just tested simple idea on Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS with MATE DE.
Out-the-box it has Xorg 1.18.4 which perfectly allow user to set for example <Ctrl+Shift> keyboard shortcut for keyboard layout switching.
But when I install HWE on 16.04 LTS I get newer Xorg 1.19.5.
Debian 8 (Xorg 1.16.4) and 9 (Xorg 1.19.2) have this problem too (see https:/
So versions 1.16.4, 1.19.2 and 1.19.5 should be patched to bring <Ctrl+Shift> keyboard shortcut functionality back.
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| Norbert (nrbrtx) wrote : | #34 |
From duplicate bug 1720364 report.
Steps to reproduce:
1. Install ubuntu-mate-desktop on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with HWE (Xorg 1.19.5), or 17.10 or 18.04 LTS.
2. Set-up two keyboard layouts - English and Russian
3. Set <Ctrl+Shift> as keyboard layout switcher
4. Try to use shortcuts starting from <Ctrl+Shift>:
4.1. Open Firefox, open new tab, go to some site in it, close tab, try to click <Ctrl+Shift+T> to restore closed tab.
4.2. Open mate-terminal, try to open new tab with <Ctrl+Shift+T>, or copy (<Ctrl+Shift+C>), or paste (<Ctrl+Shift+V>).
4.3. Open pluma, write some text, try to navigate in it with <Ctrl+Shift+arrow>.
Expected results:
<Ctrl+Shift> switches keyboard layout, shortcuts starting from <Ctrl+Shift+...> work normally.
Actual results:
<Ctrl+Shift> switches keyboard layout, shortcuts starting from <Ctrl+Shift+...> do not work.
Notes:
1. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (Xorg 1.18.4) with Marco and Compton work normally with <Ctrl+Shift> keyboard layout switcher.
2. This problem was discovered before on 13.10, 14.04 and other modern versions with GNOME desktop (Metacity and Compiz) - see bug 1245473.
| tags: | removed: zesty |
| description: | updated |
| description: | updated |
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| status: | Unknown → New |
| A (zorn-v) wrote : | #35 |
https:/
There is a script I run if x.org updated.
Fuck X.Org contributors and FUCK they minds.
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Did somebody tested Russian rulemak keyboard layout? It is between the extra layouts. It is based on russian layout with latin letters. I' m not a russian man, but I think, just testing first is a good idea!
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Viktor, could you please elaborate how exactly that may be useful here?
I would also like to ask you to make sure you contribute useful content to this discussion, or if you cannot, resist from posting. I don’t think it helps anyone to to support flamewars in this bug report, or even make the discussion longer than necessary.
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| Norbert (nrbrtx) wrote : | #36 |
I attached patch from ArchLinux AUR (https:/
It fixes current bug on Ubuntu Bionic Beaver 18.04 LTS.
I have tested it with <Ctrl+Shift> keyboard layout switcher on GNOME (DESKTOP_
Please kindly review it and consider applying it before official final release of 18.04 LTS.
I'm ready to test proposed packages which (I hope) you would create.
As the result Ubuntu users will be as happy as ArchLinux's users.
The attachment "Patch for Bionic Beaver 18.04 LTS, it fixes the problem" seems to be a patch. If it isn't, please remove the "patch" flag from the attachment, remove the "patch" tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu-reviewers, unsubscribe the team.
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| Anton V Zharnikov (antonprogz) wrote : | #38 |
This helped me:
https:/
Be aware of xserver version numbers.
| Khurshid Alam (khurshid-alam) wrote : | #39 |
@Norbert
Can you make ppa with the patch so that everyone test it easily?
| Norbert (nrbrtx) wrote : | #40 |
@khurshid-alam
I can't determine how many users want to have this bug fixed. So we can start with the complete working instruction:
1. Set Ctrl+Shift keyboard layout switcher on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
2. Ensure that Ctrl+Shift+ interference exists
3. Enable "deb-src" sources (via `software-
cd ~/Downloads
apt-get source xserver-xorg-core
cd xorg-server-1.19.6/
wget https:/
patch xkb/xkbActions.c < freedesktop-bug-865.patch
sudo apt-get install devscripts
sudo apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-core
debuild -uc -us
sudo dpkg -i ../x*.deb
4. Reboot and test again.
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| Elad Hen (eladhen2) wrote : | #247 |
@Norbert
Is there a way to apply this patch to debian stretch (xorg 1.19.2)?
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FYI the bug may be temporarily fixed on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS (with HWE), Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (and Mint 19) using packages from my PPA ( https:/
And it is unbelievable that we need to patch core graphical system component by ourselves to use traditional keyboard shortcuts ...
| Snaker (snaker.me) wrote : | #249 |
@Norbert
I have the same problem on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with GNOME.
I tried your instruction from #40 without any success. Do you have an idea how to make it work?
P.S. How can I roll back changes?
| Snaker (snaker.me) wrote : | #250 |
@Norbert
Update:
After cleaning up changes and applying your ppa:nrbrtx/
-- GitLab Migration Automatic Message --
This bug has been migrated to freedesktop.org's GitLab instance and has been closed from further activity.
You can subscribe and participate further through the new bug through this link to our GitLab instance: https:/
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| Shegon (shegon) wrote : | #253 |
Yes, I confirm the bug.
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| Oded Arbel (oded-geek) wrote : | #260 |
Daniel, I understand from your change that you think this bug does not affect cosmic?
| A (zorn-v) wrote : | #261 |
Its not a bug, its a feature... of X server ))
DAMN, the little patch and so many bustles
One more time (how long wait about wayland for nvidia on KDE ? :))
https:/
| Vlad Orlov (monsta) wrote : | #262 |
Cosmic is EOL since July 18, therefore the tag is removed
https:/
| Norbert (nrbrtx) wrote : | #263 |
Just a silent reminder: I have created a PPA ( https:/
| Oded Arbel (oded-geek) wrote : | #264 |
Norbert: and it is working great! I wish Canonical would just pick it up.
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| Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt) wrote : | #270 |
Is there a reason this bug is open when bug 36812 is also reopened?
| Jacob Becker (jabecker) wrote : | #271 |
To whom it may concern, I have uploaded xorg-server 1.20.8 packages for Ubuntu 18.04.5 amd64 (with the patch from https:/
Generally, to get the topic issue fixed, you need to install only one of the packages: xserver-
To apply the patch and build the binaries and packages, I used my script mentioned in comment #25.
| Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt) wrote : | #272 |
Please propose any fixes on the Gitlab site and link them to:
https:/
| tags: | removed: disco eoan |
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| importance: | High → Unknown |
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.