"Russia"'s shortened version in keyboard switcher applet is not correct in russian locale.

[dinar qurbanov]

"Russia"'s shortened version in keyboard switcher applet is not correct in russian locale. "Russia" is "Россия" or "Российская Федерация" in russian. shortened version of it is "РФ" or can be "Рос". but it is in gnome keyboard switcher applet now translated as "Рус".

[Draycen DeCator (ddecator)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. We will make sure the developers are aware of this mis-translation so it can be corrected.

[Micah Gersten (micahg)]

Thanks for reporting this bug and any supporting documentation. Since this bug has enough information provided for a developer to begin work, I'm going to mark it as Triaged and let them handle it from here. Thanks for taking the time to make Ubuntu better! Please report any other issues you may find.

[Viacheslav Kurenyshev (slavic)]

Почему не правильно?
РУСская раскладка.

2010/2/12 Launchpad Bug Tracker <email address hidden>

> You have been subscribed to a public bug:
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> "Russia"'s shortened version in keyboard switcher applet is not correct
> in russian locale. "Russia" is "Россия" or "Российская Федерация" in
> russian. shortened version of it is "РФ" or can be "Рос". but it is in
> gnome keyboard switcher applet now translated as "Рус".
>
> ** Affects: ubuntu-translations
> Importance: Undecided
> Assignee: Russian Ubuntu Translators (ubuntu-l10n-ru)
> Status: New
>
> ** Affects: gnome-applets (Ubuntu)
> Importance: Undecided
> Status: Confirmed
>
> --
> "Russia"'s shortened version in keyboard switcher applet is not correct in
> russian locale.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/514626
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Russian
> Ubuntu Translators, which is a bug assignee.
>

[Alexey Reztsov (ariafan)]

Может, форейны думают, что у нас есть Русский (Россия) и Русский (США)? ))

[Micah Gersten (micahg)]

@Russian Ubuntu Translators
Could you please explain in English what happened? Thanks.

[Sergey Sedov (serg-sedov)]

Micah, It is not a bug
"Рус" is the first three letters of the phrase "РУСская раскладка" (russian layout)

[IC Raibow (icrbow)]

There's no distinct english words for "russian language" and "russian country", but in russian there are "russkiy" (people) and "rossiyskiy" (citizen).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language

[Micah Gersten (micahg)]

@Russian Ubuntu Translators
Thank you.

@q.dinar
Thank you for trying to make Ubuntu better, but the translations team has decided this is not a bug. Please feel free to report any other issues you may have.

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

it is as i said.
see:
http://translate.google.com/#en|ru|Russia%0AUSA%0AEnglish%0ARussian%0A
.

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

#6, it is not "РУСская раскладка", it is "Россия - чувашский/чувашская латиница/DOS/калмыкский/..../русский/.../татарский/...". Even there are tabs "by language" and "by country" in dialog window to add layot. but i think keyboard switcher applet support only categorising by country.

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

keyboard switcher applet shows "USA" when i want to use latin letters, so it should show "Рос" or "РФ" when i want to use cyrillic letters.
but better would be if it show layots not by country, this is feature request.

[IC Raibow (icrbow)]

"Рос" would look ugly and alien to russian user. And i think there's a some sort of habit from early DOS/Win times where layout indicator said "RU", which reads "РУ", not "РО".

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

approvement:
i added great britain and iraq and it shows "GBr" and "Irq" for them.

but there is some layots shown other way:
if i add "Algeria" it show "Ara" which is not country name but language name.

but when i add "Tatar" it should not show "Рус", because is is not one layot for Russian language, but just layot used in Russia. it seems that same bug with other layots of Russia, i have tested with Chuvash and Udmurt, they are shown as Rus2 and Rus3.

[IC Raibow (icrbow)]

Looks like they should sign "Tat", "Chv" and "Udm" (;

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

yes.
i think now these are just layot names that can be named not only by country, but any way, i thought they are by country when i reported this bug, may be that was designed to be by country but some arabic countries all use one arabic layot and signed that for all of them as "Ara".
also i have tried to add Switzerland French and German, they are signed as "Che" and "Che2" - may be, i do not know, also uncomfortable sign, and so indeed most of layots are signed by country.

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

i think there is no need to mark this bug as invalid and report it other way , because this report is quite correct, because it/that looks like somebody(one person) named full names of layots as/like Russia - Chuvash , and this is correct, may be he/she used as instance Switzerland layots, and then somebody else(another person) quite correctly but not perfectly (perfectly well) named short marks/signs of all of them as Rus meaning country, and then somebody else(another, third person) incorrectly(but/though may be more pretty/comfortable as said in message #12 here) translated them to russian as "Рус".

One another example to this problem is "LAm" for several "Latin America" countries and languages. So these are by region, not by country nor by language.

Also there are much exploration of this bug in this thread/bug report, and no need not to use this report.

Just i have not provided more detailed information regarding which layot i use, this is because i had known that other layots of Russia also marked as "Рус" and decided that that was intended to be meaning Russia, and generalised this report for all layots of Russia.

This also can be generalised for all layots.

edit/correct message #13 by me: there should be "i have tested with Chuvash and Udmurt, they are shown as Рус2 and Рус3" , and 2 and 3 are written with subscript.

[dinar qurbanov (qdinar)]

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609851