base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #294867 http://bugs.debian.org/294867

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:48:08 -0800
From: Dan <email address hidden>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <email address hidden>
Subject: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

Package: base
Severity: critical
Justification: breaks the whole system

Debian autodetects my 4 port Phobos P430TX and attempts to use the de4x5.ko
driver. When the boot process gets to initializeing the card it outputs an
endless loop of this message, and won't finish booting:
bad media code [17] detected in SROM

I had to remove the card to get it the machine to boot.
I corrected the problem by renaming de4x5.ko to de4x5.off. Then on next boot
it defaulted to useing tulip.ko and so far everything appears to work ok.

I tried the card in 2 different debian machines, same problem. I tried both
the current 2.6 and 2.4 kernel, same problem.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.8-1-386
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 23:02:02 -0800
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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reassign 294867 hotplug
thanks

This sounds like a problem with hotplug (or discover?) loading the wrong
driver for the hardware.

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:21:24 +0100
From: <email address hidden> (Marco d'Itri)
To: <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

reassign 294867 kernel-image-2.6.8-i386
thanks

If a driver hangs the system when loaded, it is a good hint of a kernel
bug.

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Marco

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:32:25 +0000
From: Matthew Wilcox <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 06:21:24PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> reassign 294867 kernel-image-2.6.8-i386
> thanks
>
> If a driver hangs the system when loaded, it is a good hint of a kernel
> bug.

I think de4x5 should be a driver of last resort. Tulip should always
be preferred to drive a given piece of hardware. I wouldn't shed any
tears if we stopped shipping de4x5 by default -- it's caused no end of
problems on parisc and ia64.

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:09:43 -0500
From: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> I think de4x5 should be a driver of last resort. Tulip should always
> be preferred to drive a given piece of hardware. I wouldn't shed any
> tears if we stopped shipping de4x5 by default -- it's caused no end of
> problems on parisc and ia64.

OTOH it's the only module that can drive the ethernet card of my a500
(hppa).

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:24:56 +0000
From: Matthew Wilcox <email address hidden>
To: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:09:43PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > I think de4x5 should be a driver of last resort. Tulip should always
> > be preferred to drive a given piece of hardware. I wouldn't shed any
> > tears if we stopped shipping de4x5 by default -- it's caused no end of
> > problems on parisc and ia64.
>
> OTOH it's the only module that can drive the ethernet card of my a500
> (hppa).

I think you have that backwards. de4x5 *doesn't* work on hppa whereas
tulip does.

--
"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon
the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those
conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse
to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince
himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep
he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception." -- Mark Twain

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:25:20 -0500
From: Joey Hess <email address hidden>
To: Matthew Wilcox <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:09:43PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > I think de4x5 should be a driver of last resort. Tulip should always
> > > be preferred to drive a given piece of hardware. I wouldn't shed any
> > > tears if we stopped shipping de4x5 by default -- it's caused no end of
> > > problems on parisc and ia64.
> >=20
> > OTOH it's the only module that can drive the ethernet card of my a500
> > (hppa).
>=20
> I think you have that backwards. de4x5 *doesn't* work on hppa whereas
> tulip does.

You're right and actually I remember now that I went to a lot of bother
to make d-i/hppa force use of tulip instead of de4x5.

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:49:26 +0100
From: <email address hidden> (Marco d'Itri)
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Subject: Re: Bug#294867: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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On Feb 14, Matthew Wilcox <email address hidden> wrote:

> I think you have that backwards. de4x5 *doesn't* work on hppa whereas
> tulip does.
Now I see that de4x5 used to be blacklisted by default by hotplug, but I
removed last year when somebody told me that the driver was obsolete.
Please let me know if you will finally kill it or I have to add it again
to the default blacklist.

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:50:05 +0100
From: Marco d'Itri <email address hidden>
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Subject: reassign 294867 to kernel-image-2.6.8-i386

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reassign 294867 kernel-image-2.6.8-i386

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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:33:36 -0800
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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> Now I see that de4x5 used to be blacklisted by default by hotplug, but I
> removed last year when somebody told me that the driver was obsolete.
> Please let me know if you will finally kill it or I have to add it again
> to the default blacklist.

As of 2.4.27-2, de4x5 appears to still be the most viable driver for my
DECchip 21040 ethernet card on alpha (PCI ID 1011:0002). Let me know if you
need me to test against the current tulip module.

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:50:59 -0800
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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I've just switched to tulip from de4x5 on my alpha, and none of the problems
that were present previously appear to persist under 2.4.27-2. So I don't
have any objections to blacklisting de4x5.

OTOH, I also can't find anything in the current kernel-image 2.6.8-2
packages that explains why the de4x5 module is being chosen here, as it
doesn't appear in modules.pcimap. Would this have been a discover bug
instead, after all?

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Kernel team, is this something we need to deal with for Hoary?

[Matt Zimmerman (mdz)]

Hmm, I just checked, and de4x5 isn't in any of the hotplug maps, so we'd never
load it automatically. Hence, I don't consider this an issue for Ubuntu

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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 02:12:30 -0800
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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Hello,

As of version 0.0.20040329-20, hotplug has re-blacklisted the de4x5 module,
so this is probably no longer an RC bug.

However, please c.f.
<http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2005/04/msg00002.html>, which is a
report from a user indicating that tulip still doesn't work on his hardware.
:/ No information is available yet about the PCI ids at issue.

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Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 05:36:39 -0800
From: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: Bug#294867: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

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severity 294867 important
thanks

On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 02:12:30AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> As of version 0.0.20040329-20, hotplug has re-blacklisted the de4x5 modul=
e,
> so this is probably no longer an RC bug.

I've just accepted hotplug -21 into testing, so this is indeed no longer RC.
As a housecleaning matter, I agree with Marco that it would be nice if the
kernel dropped the module if it's to be deprecated.

Cheers,
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Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:00:48 +0900
From: Horms <email address hidden>
To: Steve Langasek <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#294867: base: de4x5.ko generates endless loop of errors with phobos p430tx

On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 05:36:39AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> severity 294867 important
> thanks
>
> On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 02:12:30AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > As of version 0.0.20040329-20, hotplug has re-blacklisted the de4x5 module,
> > so this is probably no longer an RC bug.
>
> I've just accepted hotplug -21 into testing, so this is indeed no longer RC.
> As a housecleaning matter, I agree with Marco that it would be nice if the
> kernel dropped the module if it's to be deprecated.

That is fine by me.

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