Comment 5 for bug 907015

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Conscious User (conscioususer) wrote : Re: could we have another shutdown menu?

@Matthew:

For whatever reason, Redmar is using the word "menu" for both dialogs and actual menus.

My attachments should clarify what he's talking about.

@Redmar:

There is a difference between "X is important" and "X should be prioritized above everything". Your proposals either put the menu size above everything or put discoverability above everything. Neither of those is necessarily the best approach.

The rationale behind the current design is that "restart" can be interpreted as a particular case of "shutdown", while "suspend"and "hibernate" can not. It's an attempt to find a balance.

I'm not saying that the current design is necessarily ideal. But you should present other arguments because the ones you presented so far are based on the false premise that "importance = priority above everything".

Furthermore, I disagree with your opinion on what "looks nicer". In my opinion, the power button dialog looks cluttered and confusing with so many buttons.

Finally, the issue about the dialog being too wide is actually a GTK3 issue. Dialogs in GTK3 tolerate a larger length than GTK2 before automatically adding linebreaks. I'm not sure why this is so, but either way it's a toolkit issue and not one that should be worked around only for this specific dialog.