Zeitgeist Extensions

Bug #771513
Comment #7

Comment 7 for bug 771513

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Gabriel.G.Gordillo (gabriel-g-gordillo) wrote on 2012-01-08:

I just repeat what it's written in the bug description:
Zeitgeist is not even supposed to be a search tool, so why are we pretending it is?

second I refer to the following

Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen (kamstrup) wrote:
"The user experience should be the top priority - not which libraries or tools we use under the hood."

And thrid I will make some examples why Tracker or any other indexing engine should be used with the Files lens:
I'm an Architect, something pretty rare in the Open source world. As I'm workig, I need to archive many files to be able to protect myself against what any contractor can say. This means that I have to write hundreds of emails and save them for a posible future need. when necessay, which is quite often, I need the search engine to find specific words within those emails or PDF's. And this might happen with some quite old projects wich I have never access since months or years (normally in between I would have done a new installation of the system to keep up to date). This case, it's something that happens to almost any professional in the world, and it needs to have the contents indexed. Those contents that have never been accessed ... you know they are there, but you can't start opening and reading 400 emails until you discover which one is the right one.

Having to install a completely separate system to perform the search it's an absolutely shame as the Files Lens have an amazing power to sort results out (Size, date modified, ...). Loosing that power it's completely nonsense.

Another situation would be:
I have many books, catalogs and technical sheets. As I have to look for construction materials, I need to just write as an example "concrete" and get all documents related or containing "concrete".

Another situation would be a user that has tones of music, videos, pictures, and files in the computer.
Normally what you expect of a search engine is to find things. SO you know what you have in your computer but you can't remember where you saved it ... and you use the files lens to find ... NOTHING ... as it's just looking for those things that you already know where they are.

With the above I just mean that it's absolutly nonsense to think that:

"Zeitgeist, by nature, only logs stuff you interact with. And for desktop file searching I think this is the right space to be searching. How often are you looking for something on your file system you don't know you have?"

I'm sorry but everybody knows more or less what he has in the computer. The problem is to know where it's whe you need it once every some years and you are in the hurry. The proble is ... when are you going to watch that movie again that you already have seen! ... in 2 years?

I understand ZG to be very powerfull, but it's far away of doing the required job at the moment. I also understand the problems with using both, but at the moment, and until further development of ZG I find Tracker much more usefull for the user experience as ZG.

In my opinion the real solution is to get ZG to became a Indexer as well.

I just repeat what it's written in the bug description:
Zeitgeist is not even supposed to be a search tool, so why are we pretending it is?

second I refer to the following

Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen (kamstrup) wrote:
"The user experience should be the top priority - not which libraries or tools we use under the hood."

And thrid I will make some examples why Tracker or any other indexing engine should be used with the Files lens:
 I'm an Architect, something pretty rare in the Open source world. As I'm workig, I need to archive many files to be able to protect myself against what any contractor can say. This means that I have to write hundreds of emails and save them for a posible future need. when necessay, which is quite often, I need the search engine to find specific words within those emails or PDF's. And this might happen with some quite old projects wich I have never access since months or years (normally in between I would have done a new installation of the system to keep up to date). This case, it's something that happens to almost any professional in the world, and it needs to have the contents indexed. Those contents that have never been accessed ... you know they are there, but you can't start opening and reading 400 emails until you discover which one is the right one.

With the above I just mean that it's absolutly nonsense to think that:

I understand ZG to be very powerfull, but it's far away of doing the  required job at the moment. I also understand the problems with using both, but at the moment, and until further development of ZG I find Tracker much more usefull for the user experience as ZG.

In my opinion the real solution is to get ZG to became a Indexer as well.