Comment 250 for bug 191889

I also stumbled across this really annoying bug. I use network manager for WiFi at times, but I do not - at my full intention - use it for eth0 yet. I use Debian with guessnet to set a static IP if it detects my home routers IP and MAC address. Granted I could install a DHCP server on my ASUS WL-500g Premium with Debian Etch - and I think I will...

... but actually I really dislike being patronized by computer software. I like to use Network Manager for Wifi, I like to use other setup software for eth0 at my *own discretion*, and I like to use Firefox (at times).

If Network Manager could not control all interfaces it should be honest about offline and online status:

1) If there is a way to still determine reliably whether the machine is off- or online it should be implemented.

2) If not, Network Manager should be honest about it and stop pretending that it nows better than me. It should simply say: Well there are interfaces that I do not control, I have no frigging clue about online state. Go figure. Then thats up to my own decision whether I want to live with that limitation or install a DHCP server on my ASUS router.

I really do not agree with Network Manager insisting on an "all or nothing" scenario. IMHO there are valid reasons for *not* managing all interfaces with Network Manager and NM should support such scenarios as good as it can.

Until either such a solution is implemented in Network Manager, Firefox should give me a way of not using it instead of insisting "I know better than you, the user".