Unity

Bug #668415
Comment #253

Comment 253 for bug 668415

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SRoesgen (s-roesgen) wrote on 2011-12-21:

#253

@Maarten KossenThere is at least one major argument
>There is at least one major argument
>for not moving it: cross-device functionality. It should be able to
> works well on a tablet or smartphone exactly as on the desktop

Good. Then make it configurable only on the desktop and not on TVs, smart phones, etc... . I never even tried to configure my TV and would never blame anybody if my TV were not configurable. And I would never blame anybody who coded a smart phone OS which would only allow basic or superficial configurations. I am used to a smart phone to not being very flexible if it comes to configurations. But I can complain about a desktop pc or a laptop which does not offer the flexibility the normal user is used to.

Do not get me wrong. I really, really like Unity. It has some great futures and even if there are many bugs I see a great future for Unity. But the way a couple of bug/feature requests are handled currently really pi**es me off.
As I said John Lea's answers are the only rational answers so far. And the only ones which are somewhat satisfying.
But the main problem is that he talks about future visions and where the development will take us in a couple of years.
As I said before Mark Shuttleworth said more or less directly that some features will never be implemented. And this is crap. I can understand that one says:"we do not have the manpower". I can understand the answer "not now, there is not time for this". or the answer "at the moments there will emerge too many bugs". But there are people here who would help to code patches to make the initial steps possible (and yes, I know, there would be need for somebody who maintains these patches, which would be the next problem). And telling them:"we do not want you and your help and we do not want your patches because Unity will never ever include that feature", that is a behaviour I cannot stand.
Ubuntu became what it is today by and through the community. And telling a part of this community that the ship is now heading down the river into a new direction and that everybody who does want adjustments to the current course has to jump from board and board a different ship, that is not very kind and very grateful to those who have invested much of their private, spare time to help the community to grow. I did never talk about Unity being bad or crap. I like it. I did not talk of changing the course, I only see the need for adjustments, instead of changes. But every time you start to criticize the design decisions you are treated as an enemy to the whole project.

Good. Then make it configurable only on the desktop and not on TVs, smart phones, etc... . I never even tried to configure my TV and would never blame anybody if my TV were not configurable. And I would never blame anybody  who coded a smart phone OS which would only allow basic or superficial configurations. I am used to a smart phone to not being very flexible if it comes to configurations. But I can complain about a desktop pc or a laptop which does not offer the flexibility the normal user is used to.

Do not get me wrong. I really, really like Unity. It has some great futures and even if there are many bugs I see a great future for Unity. But the way a couple of bug/feature requests are handled currently really pi**es me off. 
As I said John Lea's answers are the only rational answers so far. And the only ones which are somewhat satisfying. 
But the main problem is that he talks about future visions and where the development will take us in a couple of years. 
As I said before Mark Shuttleworth said more or less directly that some features will never be implemented. And this is crap.  I can understand that one says:"we do not have the manpower". I can understand the answer "not now, there is not time for this". or the answer "at the moments there will emerge too many bugs". But there are people here who would help to code patches to make the initial steps possible (and yes, I know, there would be need for somebody who maintains these patches, which would be the next problem). And telling them:"we do not want you and your help and we do not want your patches because Unity will never ever include that feature", that is a behaviour I cannot stand. 
Ubuntu became what it is today by and through the community. And telling a part of this community that the ship is now heading down the river into a new direction and that everybody who does want adjustments to the current course has to jump from board and board a different ship, that is not very kind and very grateful to those who have invested much of their private, spare time to help the community to grow. I did never talk about Unity being bad or crap. I like it. I did not talk of changing the course, I only see the need for  adjustments, instead of changes. But every time you start to criticize the design decisions you are treated as an enemy to the whole project.