Comment 55 for bug 48734

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Chris Rainey (ckrzen) wrote :

Whoa...Robbie, I'm just looking out for all the new user's and admin's that are coming in from other platforms that could reasonably be surprised by this and not Unix/Linux veteran's who broke their teeth with vi on Slackware, etc..

Believe it or not, with WSL-2 and other notable advancements of Ubuntu coming on to the radar of mainstream and mostly Microsoft-trained admin's, we have an _opportunity_ here to create mindshare and loyalty for migrations of huge workloads to our platform-of-choice and, arguably, the best platform for safer and more secure computing as opposed to having the majority of PC users in the world stay on one company's monoculture-vision of desktop computing.

I'm attempting to spread the Gospel-of-GNU(Ubuntu) everywhere. We're on the same team, my friend.

Obscure wiki articles and 13-year old "opinion"-marked bugs will _not_ be the first place new admins or users will find out about this issue!

Heck, I've been a Linux user since 2004("Red Hat 8"(before Fedora was even a thing) box-set purchased at a CompUSA store), then Slackware and an Ubuntu convert since 2012 or so. I should know better than to leave multi-user seats unaudited for permissions after creation(or even during by not having edited the adduser.conf file). But even I just _assumed_ that a modern desktop would surely put security ahead of convenience! I didn't even know that this "security" issue was a "feature" till I started setting-up multi-user local seats and even then--I may have just started using ecryptfs as a workaround. Now--even that option is gone from user(admin)-facing installer widgets.

Put yourself in the shoes of a new or migrating small to medium sized business CIO or IT-manager looking to convert from the soon-to-be out-of-service "Windows 7" in order to keep fleets of older boxes running for daily knowledge-worker or office-productivity users who share desktop PC's over the course of 24/7 shifts at the office. What would you think if every system that you had installed or understood to be the out-of-box defaults for the past few decades was based on blocking vs allowing? And you took the risk of allowing this "Linux-thing"(yes...this is what I have heard it called many times) only to discover the opposite, a permissive rule set, without any warning.

Ubuntu is growing rapidly...I want to see it succeed despite it's geeks-only reputation. I think sensible defaults are good to always be working on(not just "opining" about in 13-year old bugs).