Comment 4 for bug 1781971

Hi Thomas,

Maybe I’m missing some context, but could you explain why we couldn’t do
the same in Debian?

I don’t think it is generally crazy to just want to install what nginx-core
provides today without having to install what nginx-common provides today.

nginx-core could just be a meta package that installs nginx-daemon (or
similar as Robbie pointed out) which would prevent the need from modifying
the other packages?

Thanks.

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:25 AM Thomas Ward <email address hidden> wrote:

> To follow this suggestion would be problematic.
>
> And I say problematic because this would add a significant delta.
>
> The core flavor of NGINX, back in the 14.04 cycle, was a flavor of NGINX
> with the same module set as the full flavor but without third party
> modules in it, to satisfy the Security team's concerns for the MIR.
>
> To meet the specs that this feature request needs, this flavor name
> needs to change.
>
> This also would need an additional core package for each individual
> flavor of NGINX (light, full, extras) with a core package that doesnt
> depend on -common because each flavor differs in module set and the
> binaries differ because of those module sets (compiled in and not
> dynamically includeable). This isnt just one package with one binary
> that's equivalent across all flavors of nginx package we install, this
> is multiple flavors of the binary with different module sets resulting
> in different nginx binaries for each flavor.
>
> Either method I see for doing this would make us permanently divergent
> from Debian to the point we can no longer merge from them and would make
> maintaining this more difficult because of the additional complexity
> added into the builds.
>
> Robie, I can discuss more about this on IRC after I get to work, the
> discussion on this further will take up pages of text - not just a bug
> response.
>
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> nginx daemon should be provided in a package that doesn't have
> dependencies to systemd (or nginx-common)
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