xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working when starting from display manager

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Automatically imported from Debian bug report #254923 http://bugs.debian.org/254923

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:52:31 -0500
From: Nathan Poznick <email address hidden>
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Subject: Different aspect of the same problem?

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I think I may have hit a different aspect of this bug... I don't use a
display manager, but when I use my keybindings for switching desktops (I
use openbox for my wm), the alt key sort of gets stuck. I'll hit
alt-leftarrow and then release the keys. The desktop changes, but
openbox's "desktop switching dialog" stays up instead of going away when
I release the key. Normally, as soon as the alt key is released it will
go away. I can't do anything else until I tap the 'windows' key on the
keyboard (which I found odd, since I never use that key for anything).

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Actually, I'm stupid... when the alt key gets 'stuck' for me, tapping
*any* other key on the keyboard *except* for alt will 'unstick' it.

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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:34:38 +0200
From: Adeodato =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sim=F3?= <email address hidden>
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Cc: Nathan Poznick <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Window and desktop switching trouble

* Jonathan Black [Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:52:51 +0200]:

> Same, here and while attempting to track down the problem, I found that
> it was not limited to KDE, but the same behaviour occurred in GNOME too.
> It appears to have be caused by the new 4.3.0.dfsg.1-5 versions of the
> XFree86 packages that entered unstable recently. Downgrading them back
> to 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 has fixed it for me now.

  ok, I had this:

    $ xmodmap | grep mod1
    mod1 Alt_L (0x7d), Meta_L (0x7e)

  I don't remember having Meta_L there any time, i.e. before dfsg.1-5.
  So after doing:

    $ xmodmap -e 'clear mod1 -e 'add mod1 = Alt_L'

  everything seems to do fine again.
  Note that xmodmap -e 'remove mod1 = Meta_L' didn't work for me.

  See also #254923.

  HTH,

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:03:14 +0200
From: Martin Emrich <email address hidden>
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Subject: Problem solved after stopping lineakd

Hi!

I just found out that lineakd is producing this problem. after killing
lineakd, the Alt Key immediately gets unstuck, and the KDE run program dialog
(Alt-F2) appears. I'll play around with it, if it persists, I'll file a bug
there with a reference to this one.

Ciao

Martin

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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:19:17 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?C=E9sar_Mart=EDnez_Izquierdo?= <email address hidden>
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Subject: It's not only a problem of lineakd

Hello, I also have this problem, but I don't have lineakd installed.

The problem is like this:
 When I press ALT+TAB, kwin presents me the list of programs, but I can switch
to another window correctly. The window list stays on the screen an nothing
happens. If I now press TAB once more, focus is changed to the selected
window.
See bug 255216 for more info:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=255216

 Regards,

  Cesar.

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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 18:35:25 -0500
From: <email address hidden> (Pete Harlan)
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working

I'm seeing this too, though slightly differently than the two other
ways described.

When I start X (on sid i386, with or without the alt_tab_fix.diff
applied), whether from kdm or from "startx", the Alt key works
normally in Emacs running as a separate X app, and Meta (i.e.,
"Windows" key) with tab works to switch windows in wmaker, but neither
is recognized in an xterm (or "emacs -nw" from an xterm of course).

I have found that I can work around this by holding down Alt and the
windows key together; then I get the behavior I used to get from Alt
alone. The windows key by itself doesn't do anything.

The alt_tab_fix.diff did clear up the problem I was having in that
each initial use of a modifier key was ignored. So Windows-L, which I
have mapped in wmaker to open a local xterm, would be seen as an
ordinary L the first time I tried it. The second time an thereafter
it would open a new xterm as expected. The same thing for control and
other modifier keys. This problem went away after applying
alt_tab_fix.diff.

I noticed this showing up perhaps a week ago.

Thanks for your time,

--Pete

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:54:35 -0500
From: <email address hidden> (Pete Harlan)
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Subject: Re: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working

On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 06:35:24PM -0500, I wrote:
> The alt_tab_fix.diff did clear up the problem I was having in that
> each initial use of a modifier key was ignored. So Windows-L, which I
> have mapped in wmaker to open a local xterm, would be seen as an
> ordinary L the first time I tried it. The second time an thereafter
> it would open a new xterm as expected. The same thing for control and
> other modifier keys. This problem went away after applying
> alt_tab_fix.diff.

I spoke too soon; that patch didn't make that problem go away. The
first use of Alt, Control, etc. per xdm login session is still
ignored.

--Pete

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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:38:18 -0500
From: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>
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Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working when starting from display
 manager

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reassign 254923 xlibs
severity 254923 serious
merge 258054 254923
thanks

On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 08:56:44PM +0200, txemi wrote:
> Package: xserver-xfree86
> Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4
> Severity: important
>=20
> alt key does not work when I start X from display manager.

This is a duplicate of many other bugs.

A workaround for the problem is documented in the logs of most or all of
them.

The bug is in xlibs (XKB data), not the XFree86 X server or its keyboard
driver.

We expect the bug to be fixed in the next release.

Bug#258054: metacity: Cycle window does not work anymore.
Bug#254973: metacity: Alt-Tab doesn't works
Bug#255063: capplets: Problem with keyboard shortcuts containing <Alt>
Bug#255192: Alt-Tab switching broken in dfsg.1-5
Bug#255216: kwin: alt+tab does not work shen tab is released first
Bug#255332: kde: hangs when switching windows with alt+tab
Bug#255778: metacity: Desktop list doesn't disappear after switching deskto=
ps with <ctrl><alt>arrow
Bug#256192: xlibs: Alt_L is seen like a normal key instead a modifier [it]
Bug#256594: metacity: alt-tab doesn't change focus on release
Bug#256596: metacity: <Alt>Tab does not switch windows, other keybindings d=
oes
Bug#256706: Win-Tab switching broken in dfsg.1-5
Bug#256875: metacity: Alt-Tab fails to actually change windows
Bug#256939: metacity: alt+tab does not work
Bug#257044: gnome-core: Alt keys not being treated as meta keys
Bug#257294: desktop switcher stays visible
Bug#257305: metacity: Alt-Tab brings up popup, but won't switch to other ap=
ps
Bug#257454: desktop switcher stays on top
Bug#257498: capplets: Alt-Tab no longer working properly (Alt "sticking"?)
Bug#258003: metacity: Alt-tab switches window but doesn't give focus

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Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:19:43 +0200
From: "JOSE MIGUEL MARTINEZ" <email address hidden>
To: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>,
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Cc: <email address hidden>,<email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working
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I have already fixed it setting up correctly kde keyboard preferences
(105keys keyboard) and XFree Config. I think after a lot of testing
some clients were changing keyboard (kde control panel) in my sessions
and I am not sure if some xfree86 upgrade had something to do too, but
now It works for me with no hacking, just configuring X and kde. :-)

Thanks for all,
txemi.

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reassign 254923 xlibs
severity 254923 serious
merge 258054 254923
thanks

On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 08:56:44PM +0200, txemi wrote:
> Package: xserver-xfree86
> Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4
> Severity: important
>=20
> alt key does not work when I start X from display manager.

This is a duplicate of many other bugs.

A workaround for the problem is documented in the logs of most or all of
them.

The bug is in xlibs (XKB data), not the XFree86 X server or its keyboard
driver.

We expect the bug to be fixed in the next release.

Bug#258054: metacity: Cycle window does not work anymore.
Bug#254973: metacity: Alt-Tab doesn't works
Bug#255063: capplets: Problem with keyboard shortcuts containing <Alt>
Bug#255192: Alt-Tab switching broken in dfsg.1-5
Bug#255216: kwin: alt+tab does not work shen tab is released first
Bug#255332: kde: hangs when switching windows with alt+tab
Bug#255778: metacity: Desktop list doesn't disappear after switching deskto=
ps with <ctrl><alt>arrow
Bug#256192: xlibs: Alt_L is seen like a normal key instead a modifier [it]
Bug#256594: metacity: alt-tab doesn't change focus on release
Bug#256596: metacity: <Alt>Tab does not switch windows, other keybindings d=
oes
Bug#256706: Win-Tab switching broken in dfsg.1-5
Bug#256875: metacity: Alt-Tab fails to actually change windows
Bug#256939: metacity: alt+tab does not work
Bug#257044: gnome-core: Alt keys not being treated as meta keys
Bug#257294: desktop switcher stays visible
Bug#257305: metacity: Alt-Tab brings up popup, but won't switch to other ap=
ps
Bug#257454: desktop switcher stays on top
Bug#257498: capplets: Alt-Tab no longer working properly (Alt "sticking"?)
Bug#258003: metacity: Alt-tab switches window but doesn't give focus

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:01:27 +0200 (CEST)
From: Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <email address hidden>
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Subject: Unmerging and untagging

unmerge 256706
tag 256706 -pending
stop

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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:31:54 +0200
From: Sebastien Bacher <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: dup for xlibs problem ...

tag 258231 + fixed-upstream patch pending sid upstream
severity 258231 serious
reassign 258231 xlibs
merge 258231 254973
thanks

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*** Bug 6974 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:09:26 +0200
From: "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <email address hidden>
To: <email address hidden>
Cc: Russell Howe <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#258231: Window switching keys don't seem to actually switch windows

reassign 258231 xlibs
severity 258231 serious
tags 258231 + fixed-upstream patch pending sid upstream
merge 258231 254923
thanks

On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 12:34:55 +0100, Russell Howe wrote:
> I have alt+tab set

Yadda, yadda, yadda.
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This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 6874.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 13:57:36 -0500
From: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>
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Subject: tagging 254923

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tags 254923 - experimental

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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 15:52:27 -0500
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Subject: Re: Bug#255467: FocusOut event instead KeyRelease

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reassign 255467 xlibs
severity 255467 serious
close 255467
merge 255467 254973
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 10:50:04AM +0300, Mait Vares wrote:
> Package: xfree86-common
> Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-5
> Severity: normal
> Tags: sid
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040523i
>=20
> 4.3.0.dfsg.1-5 has annoying bug, FocusOut event happens instead
> KeyRelease. I'm using wmaker, defined shortcut alt-tab (or meta4-tab,
> doesn't matter what metakey) to 'focus next window'. but since
> 4.3.0.dfsg.1-5 (4.3.0.dfsg.1-4 works fine, just did downgrade) it acts
> this way (according xev):

Hello,

We think your bug is the same as #254973, #255063, #255192, #255216,
#255332, #255778, #256192, #256594, #256596, #256875, #256939, #257044,
#257294, #257305, #257454, #257498, #258003, #258054, and #258231.

Please consult the logs of any of those bugs for more information.

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Subject: Re: Bug#258349: metacity: Changing workspaces with keys still requires a mouse click.

close 258349
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See the logs of the earlier reports for details.
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Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working when starting from display
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:19:43PM +0200, JOSE MIGUEL MARTINEZ wrote:
> I have already fixed it setting up correctly kde keyboard preferences=20
> (105keys keyboard) and XFree Config. I think after a lot of testing=20
> some clients were changing keyboard (kde control panel) in my sessions=20
> and I am not sure if some xfree86 upgrade had something to do too, but=20
> now It works for me with no hacking, just configuring X and kde. :-)=20

Glad to hear it!

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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:57:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working

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On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:54:35PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 06:35:24PM -0500, I wrote:
> > The alt_tab_fix.diff did clear up the problem I was having in that
> > each initial use of a modifier key was ignored. So Windows-L, which I
> > have mapped in wmaker to open a local xterm, would be seen as an
> > ordinary L the first time I tried it. The second time an thereafter
> > it would open a new xterm as expected. The same thing for control and
> > other modifier keys. This problem went away after applying
> > alt_tab_fix.diff.
>=20
> I spoke too soon; that patch didn't make that problem go away. The
> first use of Alt, Control, etc. per xdm login session is still
> ignored.

xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 is now in unstable. Do they keys work for you now?

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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:38:56 -0500
From: <email address hidden> (Pete Harlan)
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:57:58 -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 02:54:35PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
...
> > I spoke too soon; that patch didn't make that problem go away.
> > The first use of Alt, Control, etc. per xdm login session is still
> > ignored.
>
> xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 is now in unstable. Do they keys work for
> you now?

Yes, thank you, I no longer can reproduce the problem where the first
use of Alt, Meta, etc. per login session is ignored.

I do still have the problem where in an xterm (but not an Emacs
window) I have to press Alt+Windows to get the effect of Alt.

Because nobody else appears to be having this latter problem (I got no
response about it on Debian-user), I'm thinking I might just purge all
X packages and reinstall them to see if it goes away. I don't know of
any way my setup is nonstandard, but obviously not everyone is having
the problem.

If you'd rather I didn't purge/binge, let me know.

--Pete

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 02:08:29 -0500
From: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>
To: Pete Harlan <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working

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On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 04:38:56PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:57:58 -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 is now in unstable. Do they keys work for
> > you now?
>=20
> Yes, thank you, I no longer can reproduce the problem where the first
> use of Alt, Meta, etc. per login session is ignored.

Excellent.

> I do still have the problem where in an xterm (but not an Emacs
> window) I have to press Alt+Windows to get the effect of Alt.
>=20
> Because nobody else appears to be having this latter problem (I got no
> response about it on Debian-user), I'm thinking I might just purge all
> X packages and reinstall them to see if it goes away. I don't know of
> any way my setup is nonstandard, but obviously not everyone is having
> the problem.

Actually, we know of continuing problems with some of the modifier keys,
and we are working to get a good solution in place. It's a lot more
complicated than you'd think, and simply reverting the change that was made
in -5 has its drawbacks.

> If you'd rather I didn't purge/binge, let me know.

No, please go ahead if you like. I don't think it will help anything, but
it probably won't hurt either.

Thanks for following up!

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:41:28 -0500
From: Pete Harlan <email address hidden>
To: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>
Cc: <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#254923: xserver-xfree86: [keyboard] alt key not working

On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 02:08:29AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 04:38:56PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:57:58 -0500, G. Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > xfree86 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 is now in unstable. Do they keys work for
> > > you now?
> >
> > Yes, thank you, I no longer can reproduce the problem where the first
> > use of Alt, Meta, etc. per login session is ignored.
>
> Excellent.

Sadly, the problem returned, then went away, then returned, etc. A
day or so after reporting its disappearance I saw the problem again,
but so fleetingly I wondered if I had really pressed the modifier key.
Yesterday it came back with a vengeance, but just when I was trying to
isolate a test case it went away again. It returned this morning, but
it's obviously intermittent.

The behavior: I start X (with kdm or startx), open an xterm, hit ^D to
close it and just get "d". As long as I keep the Ctrl key held down I
can keep hitting "d" all I want and I get "ddddd" etc. Then I release
Ctrl, and the next ^D is interpreted properly.

Same for Meta.

> > I do still have the problem where in an xterm (but not an Emacs
> > window) I have to press Alt+Windows to get the effect of Alt.

This one is 100% reproducible.

Thank you so much for all your hard work,

--Pete

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:31:06 -0500
From: <email address hidden> (Pete Harlan)
To: <email address hidden>
Subject: Similar behavior from clean install

FWIW, I just installed sid-amd64 from scratch on a different box, and
am experiencing similar misbehavior from the modifier keys.

--Pete

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Message-ID: <email address hidden>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:52:07 -0500
From: Branden Robinson <email address hidden>
To: Pete Harlan <email address hidden>, <email address hidden>
Subject: Re: Bug#254923: Similar behavior from clean install

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On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 10:31:06AM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> FWIW, I just installed sid-amd64 from scratch on a different box, and
> am experiencing similar misbehavior from the modifier keys.

I'm not at all surprised; the keyboard code is fairly architecture-neutral,
and XKB itself (where the problem lies) is almost completely so.

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