Comment 11 for bug 556933

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papukaija (papukaija) wrote :

"Let us try to be clear. What are you calling a "folder renaming *issue*"?"
-> You wrote about it in this bug's description "Among other folders, ~/Desktop is renamed ~/Bureau, but only if it is empty."

"If a folder contains data, it would be crazy to rename it."
->That's what xdg-user-dirs is supposed to do when the a user changes system's language.

"In consequence of that bug the system MUST keep TWO desktops: Desktop and Bureau. The consequences for the user is to have desktop data hidden and maybe unmovable. This is proving enough that the folder renaming method is the buggiest thing on earth."
->How would you fix bug 1?

"A symbolic link is avoiding that bug by having a single directory with two names."
->Avoiding isn't the same as fixing a bug. (see the changelog for the recent system update for upstart).

"It does EXACTLY the same thing (same results) but in a manner without a bug but in a manner without a bug."
->How can you be so sure that someone will write and package your solution without any bugs?

'If you think of it twice, making symbolic links does indeed "create localized versions of these directories".'
->For the user it looks so, but technically a symbolic link isn't the same as a folder/directory.

"Renaming directories is the worst thing to do."
->And challenging Microsoft is the worst thing to do for fixing bug 1 instead of abandoning the whole Ubuntu project.

" If you're not sure of that, try renaming your /etc directory"
-> /etc is just a default folder name. Just edit some config file and there you go. Or an other way: Make a new partition to your hdd/ssd or use an existing one from an internal/externel drive, move the etc folder (and rename it at the same to eg. mysystem) to that partition and edit needed config files. Now you could have moved and renamed your etc folder.

"I have no acquaintance with Debian and I do not want to report to Debian. The main reason is that, as you say it yourself, I do not want Debian to prevent Ubuntu improvements."
Bear in mind that this package is just synced from Debian. Debian gets the package from upstream.

"I want to keep Ubuntu deciding if they want to apply simple fixes with high benefits."
That would be much easier to do if there would be something to apply (to patch).

"It's up to Ubuntu to decide if they want to also send the report to Debian and wait 3 years for the fix to come."
-> No, the decision is already made and has to be followed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#A%20bug%20that%20should%20be%20handled%20upstream

Thanks in advance.