(In reply to comment #237)
> Telling people to change subsystems just to get one application working is
> pointless. Especially if "you" are that one application.
It is the reality of it, though. It's also the reason why arts and esd died. wineopenal would fix that, but you reject that idea.
> It takes more knowledge than an "average user" has
"sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio" or equivalent is not difficult. There's a lot of trickier Wine configuration that is required to get apps working that is well outside what an "average user" can be expected to know.
> > Yes, but what hasn't been proven is that Wine actually *needs* to do those
> > things.
>
> That's pointless, too.
No, it's the most pertinent point regarding the necessity of winepulse.
> > [...] and there was a suggestion that winepulse will not be
> > needed if wineopenal is implemented.
>
> It's "if" now, not even "when"?
Since an OpenAL plugin will allow Wine to work with pulse, as soon as serious work starts on wineopenal begins then this bug can be CLOSED INVALID.
(In reply to comment #237)
> Telling people to change subsystems just to get one application working is
> pointless. Especially if "you" are that one application.
It is the reality of it, though. It's also the reason why arts and esd died. wineopenal would fix that, but you reject that idea.
> It takes more knowledge than an "average user" has
"sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio" or equivalent is not difficult. There's a lot of trickier Wine configuration that is required to get apps working that is well outside what an "average user" can be expected to know.
> > Yes, but what hasn't been proven is that Wine actually *needs* to do those
> > things.
>
> That's pointless, too.
No, it's the most pertinent point regarding the necessity of winepulse.
> > [...] and there was a suggestion that winepulse will not be
> > needed if wineopenal is implemented.
>
> It's "if" now, not even "when"?
Since an OpenAL plugin will allow Wine to work with pulse, as soon as serious work starts on wineopenal begins then this bug can be CLOSED INVALID.
Or, alternatively, when/if wineopenal gets merged upstream,
> Stop trolling.
Oh really, now?:
(In reply to comment #237)
> And hardware sound is dead.
Yeah, how about you practice what you preach.
You know, neither of us is introducing any new information or arguments here. I suggest you re-read all the older comments.