Comment 8 for bug 183922

You seem to underestimate the requirements for X.
X is supposed to be bulletproof and
immune to crashes caused by non-root apps.
Any chink in its armor is a bug in X or its drivers.
One should be able to run ANY userspace program
(that does not DOS the system in general)
and have X stay up. If this seems unreasonably
demanding of X, go ask the X maintainers, they'll
tell you the same thing.
- Dan

On Jan 18, 2008 10:50 AM, Loye Young <email address hidden> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2008 10:34 AM, dankegel <email address hidden> wrote:
> > Anything that crashes Xorg is an Xorg (or driver)
> > bug. It cannot be a wine bug. Please reassign.
>
> @Dankegel
> You contribute much to our community, and I for one appreciate your
> participation, but I have to disagree with you on this one.
>
> While I do not know the particulars of this bug, I know that the
> categorical statement above is not true. Whether it's a bug in Wine or
> Xorg depends on the facts. Killing the session may be the right thing
> for Xorg to do if another program misbehaves badly enough.
>
> Documents created from Microsoft Office components in particular are
> susceptible to extremely bad code execution. The biggest reason is
> that the VBasic scripting language that is embedded in Office macros
> makes it possible to embed dangerous code in a document, sometimes
> without realizing it. This turns out to be a prime suspect in such
> cases because macro execution is the only technical reason to run
> MSOffice on a Linux box in the first place. OpenOffice can read and
> write the MS formats as well or better than MSOffice itself. However,
> many companies have developed documents with complex and sometimes
> sophisticated macros and scripts, which OpenOffice cannot yet run with
> any safety. Consequently, such companies are often compelled to use
> MSOffice, even when they have otherwise converted to open source.
>
> Again, I don't know the specifics of this case, but we can't just
> dismiss the possibility that the issue should be fixed in Wine. A
> program such as Wine that undertakes to run code written for another
> operating system should generally be responsible for containing any
> malfeasance that the code causes.
>
> Happy Trails
>
> --
> Loye Young
> Isaac & Young Computer Company
> Laredo, Texas
> http://www.iycc.biz
>
>
> --
> Xorg crashes after using Microsoft Word 2003 in Wine.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/183922
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
> Wine Team, which is a bug assignee.
>

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