Comment 13 for bug 876146

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manny (estelar57) wrote : Re: Upgrading Ubuntu is risky (unusable or unbootable PC). The Upgrade Popup does not warn of the risks or offers fail-safe alternatives. This is a mouse trap for unsuspecting users.

@Subharo Bhikkhu (subharo)

Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry for your frustrations, as It seems you encountered a great number of bugs, a bad upgrade and other issues..

Scott James blogged about the state of Ubuntu, (check the link in the bug report at the top).

And Matthew (mpt)'s comment hit the nail too:
http://netsplit.com/2011/09/08/new-ubuntu-release-process/#comment-2966

"Scott, I’m amused at how we’ve identified exactly the same problems with the Ubuntu development process (I mentioned some of them in my plenary talk last UDS), but we’ve come up with diametrically opposed solutions. You think we should have a release possibly containing new features every month. I think we should have one every two years.

We agree on the root cause: Ubuntu has not just time-based releases, but time-based features. Every problem is assumed to have a solution that can be implemented either in 13 weeks, or in landable 13-week chunks. Often that just isn’t true, and in trying to make it true, we release half-baked designs or implementations or both. (Or in the worst case, nobody bothers even starting on the feature.)

Moving to an always-stable-trunk model, as you describe, is something that could work no matter how frequent the releases were [.....]"

@mpt
Am not sure but is this the "Thursday" plenary O talk you mentioned (future of universe)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oWN9qLwEkM

or is it another one?

The problems seem to be identified, but am not sure if everyone is willing to cooperate to find a common solution?