update manager and aptitude not in sync

[danbuter]

In Hardy Heron, I just updated using the update manager. It found and updated a bunch of mono stuff. Immediately after this, I did an aptitude update/upgrade. It found and upgraded cupsys stuff. Shouldn't the cupsys upgrade have shown up in update manager? Or are they separate for some reason I am unaware of?

[danbuter (buter1)]

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[Pedro Villavicencio (pedro)]

Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Could you please add all the files contained in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ to your bug report as separate attachments? Thanks in advance.

[danbuter (buter1)]

I checked var/log/dist-grade. It is empty, including no hidden files.

[danbuter (buter1)]

Is there anything else I can list? I have also had update-manager have files listed, then ran an aptitude update/upgrade, and it couldnt' find them. It's happened 3 or 4 times in the last 2 weeks.

[Jean-Baptiste Lallement (jibel)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. We are closing this report because you reported this bug a while ago and there is no recent duplicate nor user mentioning having the issue on Intrepid. If this is still an issue, don't hesitate to reopen the report. Thanks again!

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

Aptitude and Update-manager do different things :

Update-manager *installed* apache stuff when no apache was previously present on my machine (i use lighttpd), and this use my (low) BANDWIDTH as i configured it to download in background before warning me for updates.

These apache packages where marked as "new install" (or alike), whereas Aptitude would not have done this.

after update, i needed to :
aptitude remove apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libaprutil1-ldap

Karmic (upgraded from Jaunty some weeks ago)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
before update :
~# dpkg -l | grep apache
~#
~# aptitude -s safe-upgrade
 ....
Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour :
  libgd2-xpm libhtml-parser-perl php5 php5-cgi php5-cli php5-common php5-curl php5-gd php5-ldap php5-pgsql php5-xmlrpc
11 paquets mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o/8 396ko d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 0o seront utilisés.
Voulez-vous continuer ? [Y/n/?] n
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After upgrade i have additional apache packages (i remove from the diff the normal stuff)

~# diff dpkg-l_preupdatemanager dpkg-l_post-updatemanager -U 0

--- dpkg-l_preupdatemanager 2009-11-06 10:51:23.000000000 +0100
+++ dpkg-l_post-updatemanager 2009-11-06 10:54:24.000000000 +0100
@@ -25,0 +26,4 @@
+ii apache2-mpm-prefork 2.2.12-1ubuntu2 Apache - traditional non-threaded model
+ii apache2-utils 2.2.12-1ubuntu2 utility programs for webservers
+ii apache2.2-bin 2.2.12-1ubuntu2 Apache HTTP Server common binary files
+ii apache2.2-common 2.2.12-1ubuntu2 Apache HTTP Server common files
@@ -503,0 +508 @@
+ii libapache2-mod-php5 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1 server-side (Apache 2 module)
@@ -508,0 +514,2 @@
+ii libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 1.3.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 The Apache Utility Library - SQLite3 Driver
+ii libaprutil1-ldap 1.3.9+dfsg-1ubuntu1 The Apache Utility Library - LDAP Driver
---------------------------------

[Michael Vogt (mvo)]

Thanks for your bugreport.

Could you please check if you still have the old dpkg stateus file (from before the upgrade) in /var/backups ? If so, please attach it and I will try to reproduce the behavior.

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

i attach both before and after dpkg.status and aptitude.status

rw-r--r-- 1 root root 567310 2009-11-07 02:08 dpkg.status.3.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 567294 2009-11-05 23:35 dpkg.status.4.gz

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 226230 2009-11-07 02:06 aptitude.pkgstates.3.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 226250 2009-11-05 23:35 aptitude.pkgstates.4.gz

(remider: the upgrade happend near -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 227375 2009-11-06 11:23 ../log/dist-upgrade.tgz )

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

OOPS i misclicked and took a wrong file :)

2009-11-05 23:35 aptitude.pkgstates.4.gz before upgrade

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

2009-11-05 23:35 dpkg.status.4.gz before upgrade

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

Just in case in can help too, the dpkg.status file some time *after* upgrade
2009-11-07 02:08 dpkg.status.3.gz

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

Maybe i have a clue, its only a guess :
- update-manager checks if update are needed
- it starts downloading silently (as required in my conf) and does not lock the dpkg_stuff. As i have little bandwidth, it may take some time
- meanwhile i uninstall some packages included in the upgrade (here apache)
- when the upgrade starts, the package list is wrong (but still consistent i hope)

I think there is something wrong about *when* upgrade manager checks the date of the last `apt-get update`, and *when* it starts upgrades.

my 2 cents.

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

Additional informations:
Again today 2009-11-27 update-manager during automatic update want to install *new* packages that does not exist on my machine.

- aptitude wants to update several php packages
 php5 php5-cgi php5-cli php5-common php5-curl php5-gd php5-ldap php5-pgsql php5-xmlrpc

- upgrade manager wants the same + install apache stuff:

apache2-mpm-prefork (new install)
apache2-utils
apache2.2-bin
apache2.2-common
libapache2-mod-php5
libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3
libaprutil1-ldap

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

OK i think got it , something is wrong in the way update-manager manages dependencies:

On my server php5 is installed and need to be upgraded

<pre>
 # LANG=en aptitude show php5
 Package: php5
 New: yes <------- why new ? Is it the cause of the trouble ?
 State: installed
 Automatically installed: no
 Version: 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1
 Priority: optional
 Section: web
 Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers <email address hidden>
 Uncompressed Size: 20.5k
 Depends: libapache2-mod-php5 (>= 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1) | libapache2-mod-php5filter (>= 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1) | php5-cgi (>= 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1), php5-common (>=
         5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.1)
</pre>

it considers that libapache2-mod-php5 must be installed, but the dependency says
 libapache2-mod-php5 | libapache2-mod-php5filter | php5-cgi

the last choice php5-cgi is installed in my machine so the apache stuff is not needed.

[Alain Baeckeroot (alain-baeckeroot)]

# aptitude -s install libapache2-mod-php5
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apache2-mpm-prefork{a} apache2-utils{a} apache2.2-bin{a} apache2.2-common{a} libapache2-mod-php5 libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3{a} libaprutil1-ldap{a}