Panel icon for "no network" looks like wireless (even when the machine lacks wireless)

[Nicolas DERIVE]

Binary package hint: ubuntu-mono

It's in the title : no network icon in panel shouldn't be a wireless one when I haven't any wireless networking card.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
CheckboxSubmission: c4273c0f4f2b8d26cd6bf31cadfd2912
CheckboxSystem: a871981cb5bdf4d6ebd55be46becf77e
Date: Thu Mar 11 12:06:46 2010
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
EcryptfsInUse: Yes
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Package: ubuntu-mono 0.0.7
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
 LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en_GB:en
 LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-16.25-generic
SourcePackage: ubuntu-mono
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-16-generic i686

[Nicolas DERIVE (kalon33)]

It's the same thing as a previous bug with humanity, which was solved by kwii if I remember well, subscribing Canonical Desktop Experience Team.

[Nicolas DERIVE (kalon33)]

seems to have the same icon for "nm-no-connection.svg" and "network-offline.svg" whereas they were different in humanity-icon-theme.

[Vish (vish)]

Yes , this is a problem in ubuntu-mono , it has too many monochrome icons/symlinks .

[Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)]

This was a design decision

[Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl)]

Support calls from people buying machines with Ubuntu pre-installed
declined 30% after we made this change just on the machines being
shipped through OEM's. People who are "trying to get online" were
clearly preferring wifi, and unable to find the network indicator unless
it looked like wifi.

However, in the case where there is *no* wifi card, we should probably
take a different approach. A patch would be welcome, if not for Lucid
then certainly for Lucid+1.

Mark

[Vish (vish)]

Mark,
How is that possible?[declined support calls] Has Lucid been shipping in OEM already?
or are the ubuntu-mono icons been shipping for a longer time than that it has been available in Lucid? [Just a bit confused :-) ]

[Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl)]

It's not the mono icons particularly, it's the use of the wifi icon to
represent "the network". For most people who have a wifi card, wifi
represents "the network".

However, in the case where there is absolutely no wifi card present, it
can't really represent the network. We don't have a really good mono
icon representation for the network - contributions welcome :-)

Mark

[Vish (vish)]

Mark , right. I think we both are mentioning the same thing , as is this bug.
Which asks to name the icons as was done in Karmic Humanity[which is probably the reason for the reduced support calls ;-)]

I agree that the current icon is a poor metaphor for "network" , pls see Bug #532522 .
"internet"/"network" is an abstract concept to be denoted in a monochrome. Hence I had done the icon as two connectors for Humanity, which seems to be used elsewhere [ex: in evolution , and most other application to denote connected states.] The two connectors are not the best metaphor but , they were the safest.
We could use the similar icon from humanity[until I can think of something more Mark-appropriate] ;-)

[Daniel van Vugt (vanvugt)]

The icons have changed since switching to Gnome. Can we therefore declare this fixed?

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