Activity log for bug #122039

Date Who What changed Old value New value Message
2007-06-24 22:40:34 Bogdan Butnaru bug added bug
2007-08-08 09:33:56 Colin Watson ubuntu-meta: status New Fix Released
2007-08-08 09:33:56 Colin Watson ubuntu-meta: assignee kamion
2007-08-08 09:33:56 Colin Watson ubuntu-meta: statusexplanation espeak was already a Recommends by the time I got to this, and I've dropped xsane to Recommends too: revno: 1039 committer: Colin Watson <cjwatson@canonical.com> branch nick: ubuntu.gutsy timestamp: Wed 2007-08-08 10:32:23 +0100 message: drop xsane to Recommends (LP: #122039) xterm is a dependency because it's used (hardcoded) by gdm as a fallback in case the main X session fails.
2007-08-08 15:50:32 Wouter Stomp ubuntu-meta: status Fix Released Confirmed
2007-08-08 15:50:32 Wouter Stomp ubuntu-meta: statusexplanation espeak was already a Recommends by the time I got to this, and I've dropped xsane to Recommends too: revno: 1039 committer: Colin Watson <cjwatson@canonical.com> branch nick: ubuntu.gutsy timestamp: Wed 2007-08-08 10:32:23 +0100 message: drop xsane to Recommends (LP: #122039) xterm is a dependency because it's used (hardcoded) by gdm as a fallback in case the main X session fails. And what about the others I mentioned above: Serpentine, sound-juicer, tsclient and rss-glx?
2008-08-19 11:09:09 Colin Watson ubuntu-meta: assignee kamion
2008-08-19 11:09:09 Colin Watson ubuntu-meta: statusexplanation And what about the others I mentioned above: Serpentine, sound-juicer, tsclient and rss-glx?
2008-09-01 01:29:47 Colin Watson description Binary package hint: ubuntu-desktop Hello! This is an "exploratory" bug report. It is based on Gutsy, which I'm using right now, but probably applies to the older versions too. I've just noticed ubuntu-desktop depends on the xsane and espeak packages. These two are packages I have never, ever used, and I suspect this is true for the vast majority of users. I understand out-of-the-box compatibility with scanners and screen-readers are desirable qualities for Ubuntu, but isn't there another way? Perhaps putting them as "Recommends" dependencies would work; espeak could be part of an "ubuntu-accessibility" package, installed by default, and xsane could maybe be automatically-installed when a scanner is detected. The problem is that unnecessary packages not only occupy space, but can cause problems too (I've recently have trouble with the GIMP, which I use only on digital-camera pictures, not starting up, and xsane is the suspect; yes, I know it's a development release, and I can handle it, but still). And removing them is a problem, too, because (useful) additions to ubuntu-desktop will not be noticed. *** Please do not add new package names to this bug when you think ubuntu-desktop shouldn't depend on them. File a new bug instead. This has been a public service announcement. *** Hello! This is an "exploratory" bug report. It is based on Gutsy, which I'm using right now, but probably applies to the older versions too. I've just noticed ubuntu-desktop depends on the xsane and espeak packages. These two are packages I have never, ever used, and I suspect this is true for the vast majority of users. I understand out-of-the-box compatibility with scanners and screen-readers are desirable qualities for Ubuntu, but isn't there another way? Perhaps putting them as "Recommends" dependencies would work; espeak could be part of an "ubuntu-accessibility" package, installed by default, and xsane could maybe be automatically-installed when a scanner is detected. The problem is that unnecessary packages not only occupy space, but can cause problems too (I've recently have trouble with the GIMP, which I use only on digital-camera pictures, not starting up, and xsane is the suspect; yes, I know it's a development release, and I can handle it, but still). And removing them is a problem, too, because (useful) additions to ubuntu-desktop will not be noticed.
2008-09-01 20:52:31 Wouter Stomp title [Gutsy] unnecessary packages in ubuntu-desktop dependencies? Unnecessary packages in ubuntu-desktop dependencies?
2012-10-05 03:45:21 Thomas Hotz bug added subscriber Thomas Hotz
2014-09-06 06:49:47 Mathew Hodson summary Unnecessary packages in ubuntu-desktop dependencies? ubuntu-desktop should not depend on xsane or espeak
2014-09-06 06:50:01 Mathew Hodson ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu): status Confirmed Fix Released