Activity log for bug #1807344

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2018-12-07 08:16:05 InfoLibre bug added bug
2018-12-07 08:18:16 InfoLibre description When I install Ubuntu without selecting anything until the installer propose me to choose a keyboard, I select French and then it's the wrong french keyboard that is proposed by default : "Français - Français (variante obsolète)" instead of "Français - Français (variante)". Same bug than in Linux Mint MATE (upstream) : https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50 --- Bug tested and validated by Jeffrey LANE from Canonical too : Interesting... I think you may have found the difference there. I HAVE to choose the initial locale, otherwise, it just sits there. However, here's what happens: I chose the default at that very first locale selection, which is English. Then I chose "Install" as before (not the Try Ubuntu first option). THIS TIME, when the keyboard selection comes up, it does indeed choose the Variante Obselete keyboard, not the Variante version. So it appears that, in your case, for whatever reason you're getting that first choice automatically, and that's causing the issue down the road when you get to keyboard selection. So to summarize: Choose English at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante obselete) keyboard as the default choice. Choose French at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante) keyboard as the default Choice So this is still an active issue then in the installer. As I mentioned earlier, you should file a bug against ubiquity with all the info from this. Cheers Jeff On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote: Strange, when I start the ISO in VirtualBox, the menu with the keyboards appears immediatly, I don't have the menu where you choosed "Français" and the menu with "Installer Ubuntu". My ISO starts very more quickly and I have to choose nothing, it's automatic. Could you try with letting Ubuntu choose automatically default choices in menu, until the keyboard menu appears ? Le 06/12/2018 à 15:43, Jeffrey Lane a écrit : > Then the issue is likely on your end somewhere, I'd imagine. I've attached a brief video showing exactly what I did once the VM booted, giving me the correct keyboard. Hope that helps. Otherwise, file a bug against ubiquity and one of the team that develops that can help you out. > > Jeff > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:05 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote: > > Hello, > > I just downloaded http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.1/ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso and try the install. The bug is the same in Ubuntu than in Linux Mint MATE (https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50) : the default keyboard is "variante obsolète" instead of "variante" : > > > -- > Jeff Lane > TPP / Server Certification Lead > > "Entropy isn't what it used to be." When I install Ubuntu without selecting anything until the installer propose me to choose a keyboard, I select French and then it's the wrong french keyboard that is proposed by default : "Français - Français (variante obsolète)" instead of "Français - Français (variante)". Same bug than in Linux Mint MATE (upstream) : https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50 --- Bug tested and validated by Jeffrey LANE from Canonical : From: Jeffrey Lane <***********> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:20:41 -0500 Interesting... I think you may have found the difference there. I HAVE to choose the initial locale, otherwise, it just sits there. However, here's what happens: I chose the default at that very first locale selection, which is English. Then I chose "Install" as before (not the Try Ubuntu first option). THIS TIME, when the keyboard selection comes up, it does indeed choose the Variante Obselete keyboard, not the Variante version. So it appears that, in your case, for whatever reason you're getting that first choice automatically, and that's causing the issue down the road when you get to keyboard selection. So to summarize: Choose English at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante obselete) keyboard as the default choice. Choose French at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante) keyboard as the default Choice So this is still an active issue then in the installer. As I mentioned earlier, you should file a bug against ubiquity with all the info from this. Cheers Jeff On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote:     Strange, when I start the ISO in VirtualBox, the menu with the keyboards appears immediatly, I don't have the menu where you choosed "Français" and the menu with "Installer Ubuntu".     My ISO starts very more quickly and I have to choose nothing, it's automatic. Could you try with letting Ubuntu choose automatically default choices in menu, until the keyboard menu appears ?     Le 06/12/2018 à 15:43, Jeffrey Lane a écrit : > Then the issue is likely on your end somewhere, I'd imagine. I've attached a brief video showing exactly what I did once the VM booted, giving me the correct keyboard. Hope that helps. Otherwise, file a bug against ubiquity and one of the team that develops that can help you out. > > Jeff > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:05 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote: > > Hello, > > I just downloaded http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.1/ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso and try the install. The bug is the same in Ubuntu than in Linux Mint MATE (https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50) : the default keyboard is "variante obsolète" instead of "variante" : > > > -- > Jeff Lane > TPP / Server Certification Lead > > "Entropy isn't what it used to be."
2018-12-08 09:08:46 InfoLibre attachment added okofnkiphgnjbnlb.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1807344/+attachment/5220255/+files/okofnkiphgnjbnlb.png
2019-07-19 16:13:15 Clement Lefebvre bug added subscriber Clement Lefebvre
2019-07-19 16:13:55 Launchpad Janitor ubiquity (Ubuntu): status New Confirmed
2019-12-05 09:28:52 InfoLibre attachment added English.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1807344/+attachment/5309998/+files/English.png
2019-12-05 09:29:12 InfoLibre attachment added French.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1807344/+attachment/5309999/+files/French.png
2019-12-05 09:32:13 InfoLibre attachment added Detect.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1807344/+attachment/5310002/+files/Detect.png
2019-12-05 14:11:48 Sebastien Bacher ubiquity (Ubuntu): importance Undecided Low
2019-12-05 14:11:48 Sebastien Bacher ubiquity (Ubuntu): status Confirmed Fix Committed
2019-12-05 14:11:48 Sebastien Bacher ubiquity (Ubuntu): assignee Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
2019-12-17 09:47:22 InfoLibre description When I install Ubuntu without selecting anything until the installer propose me to choose a keyboard, I select French and then it's the wrong french keyboard that is proposed by default : "Français - Français (variante obsolète)" instead of "Français - Français (variante)". Same bug than in Linux Mint MATE (upstream) : https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50 --- Bug tested and validated by Jeffrey LANE from Canonical : From: Jeffrey Lane <***********> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:20:41 -0500 Interesting... I think you may have found the difference there. I HAVE to choose the initial locale, otherwise, it just sits there. However, here's what happens: I chose the default at that very first locale selection, which is English. Then I chose "Install" as before (not the Try Ubuntu first option). THIS TIME, when the keyboard selection comes up, it does indeed choose the Variante Obselete keyboard, not the Variante version. So it appears that, in your case, for whatever reason you're getting that first choice automatically, and that's causing the issue down the road when you get to keyboard selection. So to summarize: Choose English at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante obselete) keyboard as the default choice. Choose French at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante) keyboard as the default Choice So this is still an active issue then in the installer. As I mentioned earlier, you should file a bug against ubiquity with all the info from this. Cheers Jeff On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote:     Strange, when I start the ISO in VirtualBox, the menu with the keyboards appears immediatly, I don't have the menu where you choosed "Français" and the menu with "Installer Ubuntu".     My ISO starts very more quickly and I have to choose nothing, it's automatic. Could you try with letting Ubuntu choose automatically default choices in menu, until the keyboard menu appears ?     Le 06/12/2018 à 15:43, Jeffrey Lane a écrit : > Then the issue is likely on your end somewhere, I'd imagine. I've attached a brief video showing exactly what I did once the VM booted, giving me the correct keyboard. Hope that helps. Otherwise, file a bug against ubiquity and one of the team that develops that can help you out. > > Jeff > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:05 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote: > > Hello, > > I just downloaded http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.1/ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso and try the install. The bug is the same in Ubuntu than in Linux Mint MATE (https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50) : the default keyboard is "variante obsolète" instead of "variante" : > > > -- > Jeff Lane > TPP / Server Certification Lead > > "Entropy isn't what it used to be." When I install Ubuntu without selecting anything until the installer propose me to choose a keyboard, I select French and then it's the wrong french keyboard that is proposed by default : "Français - Français (variante obsolète)" instead of "Francais (azerty)". Same bug than in Linux Mint MATE (upstream) : https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50 --- Bug tested and validated by Jeffrey LANE from Canonical : From: Jeffrey Lane <***********> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:20:41 -0500 Interesting... I think you may have found the difference there. I HAVE to choose the initial locale, otherwise, it just sits there. However, here's what happens: I chose the default at that very first locale selection, which is English. Then I chose "Install" as before (not the Try Ubuntu first option). THIS TIME, when the keyboard selection comes up, it does indeed choose the Variante Obselete keyboard, not the Variante version. So it appears that, in your case, for whatever reason you're getting that first choice automatically, and that's causing the issue down the road when you get to keyboard selection. So to summarize: Choose English at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the French keyboard as the default choice. Choose French at the boot screen on the ISO, and French as the locale once the installer loads, and you get the Francais (variante obsolète) keyboard as the default Choice So this is still an active issue then in the installer. As I mentioned earlier, you should file a bug against ubiquity with all the info from this. Cheers Jeff On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:56 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote:     Strange, when I start the ISO in VirtualBox, the menu with the keyboards appears immediatly, I don't have the menu where you choosed "Français" and the menu with "Installer Ubuntu".     My ISO starts very more quickly and I have to choose nothing, it's automatic. Could you try with letting Ubuntu choose automatically default choices in menu, until the keyboard menu appears ?     Le 06/12/2018 à 15:43, Jeffrey Lane a écrit : > Then the issue is likely on your end somewhere, I'd imagine. I've attached a brief video showing exactly what I did once the VM booted, giving me the correct keyboard. Hope that helps. Otherwise, file a bug against ubiquity and one of the team that develops that can help you out. > > Jeff > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:05 AM David VANTYGHEM <david.vantyghem@free.fr> wrote: > > Hello, > > I just downloaded http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.1/ubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso and try the install. The bug is the same in Ubuntu than in Linux Mint MATE (https://github.com/linuxmint/linuxmint/issues/50) : the default keyboard is "Français (variante obsolète)" instead of "Francais (azerty)" : > > > -- > Jeff Lane > TPP / Server Certification Lead > > "Entropy isn't what it used to be."