13:51 <rbasak> bdrung: tzdata in Bionic has quite a bit of churn in debian/tzdata.templates, including the removal of Pacific-New from tzdata/Zones/US. I didn't see any removals in the later series. Do we have anything that demonstrates that this is safe? Shouldn't the choice be preserved somehow?
14:53 <bdrung> rbasak, previous SRUs forgot to regenerate debian/tzdata.templates. You could use 2022g and regenerate debian/tzdata.templates to see what previous SRUs should have included in their debdiff.
14:54 <bdrung> rbasak, Pacific-New was added but was never used. upstream removed Pacific-New some time ago.
15:19 <rbasak> bdrung: yeah but I wouldn't expect removals to be followed in SRUs. If it was user-selectable, then wouldn't dropping it be a regression for users who might have selected it previously?
15:22 <bdrung> rbasak, yes. That regression would have been happened years ago when upstream removed Pacific-New.
15:26 <rbasak> bdrung: OK, so Pacific-New in bionic-updates today is already broken?
15:27 <rbasak> If that's the case then there will be no SRU regression so that's fine, but I'd like to document that somewhere. Can you confirm and I'll just stick this conversation into a bug comment?
15:28 <bdrung> rbasak, I checked the history. Even 2018d-1 did not have Pacific-New as option (the source package has an outdated tzdata.templates). So it was never selectable for bionic users.
15:29 <bdrung> 2018d-1 was the version of the bionic release.
13:51 <rbasak> bdrung: tzdata in Bionic has quite a bit of churn in debian/ tzdata. templates, including the removal of Pacific-New from tzdata/Zones/US. I didn't see any removals in the later series. Do we have anything that demonstrates that this is safe? Shouldn't the choice be preserved somehow?
14:53 <bdrung> rbasak, previous SRUs forgot to regenerate debian/ tzdata. templates. You could use 2022g and regenerate debian/ tzdata. templates to see what previous SRUs should have included in their debdiff.
14:54 <bdrung> rbasak, Pacific-New was added but was never used. upstream removed Pacific-New some time ago.
15:13 <bdrung> rbasak, checked that. 2018a removed Pacific-New
15:19 <rbasak> bdrung: yeah but I wouldn't expect removals to be followed in SRUs. If it was user-selectable, then wouldn't dropping it be a regression for users who might have selected it previously?
15:22 <bdrung> rbasak, yes. That regression would have been happened years ago when upstream removed Pacific-New.
15:26 <rbasak> bdrung: OK, so Pacific-New in bionic-updates today is already broken?
15:27 <rbasak> If that's the case then there will be no SRU regression so that's fine, but I'd like to document that somewhere. Can you confirm and I'll just stick this conversation into a bug comment?
15:28 <bdrung> rbasak, I checked the history. Even 2018d-1 did not have Pacific-New as option (the source package has an outdated tzdata.templates). So it was never selectable for bionic users.
15:29 <bdrung> 2018d-1 was the version of the bionic release.