Comment 9 for bug 401545

Hi Callum,

On So, 13 Jun 2010, Callum Macdonald wrote:
> Norbert, you said this has been discussed on the Debian bug tracking
> system and debian tex-maint mailing list. Is that correct?

Right.

> I found a bug, but I'm struggling to find anything in the mailing list.
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515051

Right. All important things are stated there.

> Do you know specifically where I can find the previous discussions? Or suggestions on how to find them? I've run several searches on the debian mailing list search, but I've been unable to find anything relevant.

What else do you need? There is:
- explanation why the doc files are a recommends and not a suggests
  (and that this is already a compromise regarding the LPPL)
- how to adjust your system to make sure that the recommends are not installed

I don't see any more need in discussing that further.

> = Licensing =
>
> In debian bug 515051 you said 'It is not necessarily a case of "prefer"
> but of "license" ...'. I took this to mean that the license of texlive /
> tex requires that the documentation be included. Is that an accurate
> interpretation of what you meant?
>
> I found what I believe to be the texlive license here:
> http://www.tug.org/texlive/LICENSE.TL
>
> I don't see anything in that document that specifies a need for
> documentation to be included in distributions. Perhaps I've
> misunderstood something here. Can you point me in the right direction?

LPPL 1.3c, please read. The "work" is by many authors considered
as not only the run time files, but also the documentation. Installing
the run time files *without* documentation would break the LPPL.

As said in the bug report, if people are continuing to complain
I will include *ALL* the doc files back into the original packages,
remvoe the recommends, and there will be no more option. End of
discussion.

> = Philosophy =

[much blabla deleted]

All has been said. If Ubuntu people want to do something else, they
are free to do wahtever they want. I keep to my rules, and I am not
inclined to make any further concessions trying to expand LPPL.

If Ubuntu packagers want to do that, they are free to do so.

Enjoy

Norbert
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