Comment 10 for bug 228345

On 27/05/08 at 09:58 -0000, Neil Wilson wrote:
> 2008/5/24 Lucas Nussbaum <email address hidden>:
> > Right. I'm waiting for your patch.
>
> Ok. Lucas. I'm going to send a patch via Ubuntu.

Feel free me to subscribe me to the bug.

> The patch will be to
> include /var/lib/gems/xxx/bin in the system path within the rubygems
> module. There are plenty of bugs here on Launchpad complaining about
> that little 'oversight'. And I know it irritates the very devil out of
> everybody using Ubuntu Ruby to get real things done. In fact the
> standard approach is to do a 'gem update --system' after installation
> to get back to the normal gem infrastructure.
>
> If you can get your team to accept that within the Debian rubygems
> package then we have a fighting chance of moving forward together.

I'd prefer if it went upstream, if applicable.

> If not then there may have to be some sort of fork.
>
> > Sure. Try to talk to the gems developer about that. I'm sure they will
> > listen to you. You might want to have a look at the ML archives first,
> > though, it's not like we tried. But I'm not going to engage with another
> > hateful discussion with the rubygems developers.
>
> I don't find them that bad. But then I have a slightly more pragmatic
> position with Rubygems and a very, very large itch that I need to
> scratch.

My mistake so far has been to try to reach them through ruby-core.
Trying to contact them directly might be more successful, as you will
avoid Austin Ziegler.

> I will talk to Eric, et al and see if we can come to some accommodation.
>
> As to the substance of this bug, I can live with the splitting of the
> Ruby1.9 system into the sub-packages if they are pulled back together
> into a single point somehow. It would be much better if ruby1.8 and
> ruby1.9 pulled them all back together again for the average user.

I'm not sure you understand the rationale for splitting ruby1.9.

> Would it not be more sensible to have a ruby1.8-core and ruby1.9-core
> package to allow minimalist dependencies but incorporate gem1.8 and
> gem1.9 (along with irb, ri, rdoc) in the ruby1.8/ruby1.9 packages and
> target them at those developing with the language?

It already exists, it's called ruby-full:
Package: ruby-full
[..]
Depends: irb, libdbm-ruby, libgdbm-ruby, libopenssl-ruby, libreadline-ruby, rdoc, ri, ruby, ruby1.8-dev
Recommends: libtcltk-ruby, ruby-elisp

But currently, it pulls ruby1.8, since that's the default version, not
ruby1.9.
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