Comment 45 for bug 562027
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| Valthare (valt) wrote Re: [ooo-build] OOo QuickStarter: unable to shutdown / reboot / logout when quickstarter is active | #45 |
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@Chris Coulson
This is not just a quickstarter problem. This is a fundamental design issue of the behaviour in Gnome.
1. The user requests a shutdown
2. The user is asked by Gnome - Are you sure about that?
3. User explicitly confirms that he is indeed
4. Nothing happens.
The importance is low - I already accepted that. (it is set to high in OO by now though)
"People have more important issues to work on right now" - this is totally besides the issue.
This is not a technical problem that would involve lots of coding or testing. It is a gnome design issue. To fix problems like this - at some point, gnome developers would have simply to agree on that - in a design meeting. However - by denying in the first place that this is a design problem at all - this will NEVER happen. Again - If the user initiates and confirms a shutdown - should ANY third party application be allowed to silently override that? - Anybody voting yes here? A simple fix could be to have this dialogue insisting on a password entry - if that is what we want it to do.
The quick start function is not buried away in the prefs of OO. Anybody using OO will be familiar with it. Keep in mind that this includes MS users!! If they try Ubuntu for the first time - have used OO in Windows - It will be the first thing they enable - even if they never used linux before in their life. And what a nice welcome they will get upon meeting a Gnome that simply wont shut down. I fact - one of the main reasons why I switched to Gnome was a fully working quick-starter. I am sure gnome developers would have an interest in winning over users from KDE - not loosing them.
"The session manager is behaving correctly here in not displaying any dialog" - What? This can only be meant politically - and I disagree 100% :)
" It would be pretty annoying to have it pop up a dialog telling me there is a problem with some application, every time i cancel a log out when i've realised i have work to save" - I am using computers since 1993 - I never ever had to cancel a shutdown because I realised in that moment there is still some work I need to save. In Windows or Linux. Besides - you do NOT have the option to cancel the shutdown - which is exactly what I am talking about here...