Comment 136 for bug 390508

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Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote : Re: notify-send ignores the expire timeout parameter

> Where

The list where the design is discussed, see comment #95

> No, and I'm not the only one. You seem quite sure that the ubuntu team is always right and the (l)users are always wrong and, being stupid, can't comprehend the great design behind notify-osd.

Nobody said that, the Ubuntu team just decided on a design for Ubuntu without any claim of being right or not, nobody said either that users are wrong or stupid. You could respect the choice of Ubuntu to take decisions on what they are doing, nobody is forcing you to use Ubuntu if you think the decision don't fit your needs either

> never read a word explaining what "consistent way" means and what it is useful for. Where is the "value"? In what?

Consistent means that things are not changing randomly, notifications are always displayed in the same way, for the same time
rather than have a bubble displayed for 1 second, then the next one 15 seconds, then the next one 45 seconds just because the software writers don't agree on what to do

> Where is the value when lots of people complain about it?

Lot of people will complain anyway, what you call lot of is a matter of perspective, it's some vocal users on a bug report, user testing are being made as well and not only on technical communities and some users see value in having a system not acting randomly (why was that bubble displayed 3 seconds and now this one 8 seconds?)

> Instead, I already explained why it is much more reasonable, useful and natural to let the client chose the right (yes, the right) timeout. The DNS suggests the same.

Let's agree to disagree and stop abusing this bug report? Design discussion should be moved to the lists where the people working on notify-osd and doing the design will read it rather on a bug report where you keep arguing with Ubuntu bug triagers who are neither deciding on the design nor coding on notify-osd.

Not sure what DNS have to do with that discussion but DNS have nothing to do with visual design

> Sure, but we are talking about notify-osd.

Right, so change Ubuntu by the notify-osd writers, why don't you accept that whoever is writing code can take decisions on what the said code behaviour should be? If you don't like it don't use it, nobody forces you to use notify-osd or Ubuntu