Comment 71 for bug 14838

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Nicolas da Luz Duque (hot-boy) wrote :

(In reply to comment #51)
> I am against this change for a number clear-cut reasons
>
> a) This was a last minute change, these kind of major usability changes at the
> last minute are bad, at the very least this should be considered in breezy.
> b) The current patch is incomplete and confusing, for example the backspace key
> doesn't close behind, which is the reverse behavior.
> c) This makes the ubuntu desktop differ from the GNOME desktop, which is bad.
> d) There is no easy way to change back to the normal behavior

I totally agree on that, but I'd like to hear the ubuntu deciders' point of
view. How can we be convinced that it is indeed the best solution when we don't
hear any arguments? Maybe the developpers have very good reasons for it to be
the default nautilus behaviour, but for now I don't see them.

(In reply to comment #63)
> The problem here is people who cannot accept that what they prefer was not
choosen as the default setting by developers.

This has norhing to do with what we prefer. I admit I prefer the Gnome behaviour
for nautilus, but the workaround works fine and I had it settled in 30 seconds.
It's not a problem FOR ME, it can be a problem for other ubuntu users. If I post
here, it's not to "bitch" about ubuntu or something. (I love ubuntu and
evangelize it as much as I can.) So if I post here, it is also for me a way to
contribute to ubuntu, to (try to) make it more user friendly, the same way one
would make a bug report.

> Besides, could people could stop the "newbie" argument ? Newbies get their stuff
> setup for them by a more experienced friend / their admin. This person can
> probably manage to check the appropriate box, or is it still too difficult ?

Maybe it is the case now, but ubuntu shouldn't rely on that. I believe one of
ubuntu's goals is to make it easy for the end-user, not more difficult.

> Isn't getting MP3/DVDs/3D/etc working actually somewhat harder, or do you thing
> Mr Newbie will want to accept something which cannot do MP3/DVDs/3D/etc like his
> Windows did ?
>

It is indeed more difficult. But unfortunately ubuntu can't do anything about it
because of the patents.
We are here talking about an issue about which ubuntu _can_ do something, and I
think they should.

Thanks again to all the developpers' team for their incredible work and to Mark
Shuttleworth without who none of this would be possible. You're doing a great
work and this minor issue is really nothing compared to all the terrific
features in ubuntu. I find the "you can install another distro" reaction
excessive! I just feel a little sorry for the users who'll encounter problems
because of this.