Comment 199 for bug 554172

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Mike Bianchi (mbianchi-foveal) wrote : Re: [Bug 554172] Re: CUPS and other system services not starting at boot

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:24:28AM -0000, Robbie Williamson wrote:
> :
> 2) It has *something* to do with when lo0 is activated, i.e. a race condition

I disagree, it has something to do with not being able to write /dev/console.
See my analysis in bugs 581291 and 543506.

> 3) There are apparently a few hacky workarounds, but no fix

They _are_ hacky, _BUT_ they give some of us reliable boots.
They should be distributed until a fix is found.

> 4) There is no concrete evidence that this is a kernel issue
> 5) There is no concrete evidence that this is an upstart issue

I disagree. There is strong, but inconclusive, evidence that it is EITHER
a kernel or upstart issue (maybe both). Again see 543506.

> This bug is officially "on the radar", so we will figure out what's
> causing the issue and address it in an SRU, but it's too late for
> 10.04.1.

I do not see why the hacky workarounds can not be part of the official
distribution until the real fixes are implemented.

I strongly recommend distributing the workarounds, including the
 init='/bin/sbin --verbose'
I had some evidence that it _helped_ improve boot reliability.
It certainly helped with boot sequence visibility.

I would think you would want to increase the population of reliable boots.
The evidence is that over the past months newer 10.4 updates have been
reducing that population.