Comment 127 for bug 317781

> Finally, I'll note that Fedora folks haven't really been complaining about this, so far as I know.
> Which should make people ask the question, "why is Ubuntu different"?

This, to me gets to the root of the loggerheads displayed in this bug. The reason Ubuntu is different is because it is *more* likely (I suspect) to be deployed as a personal use desktop. Since it gets thrown onto any number of laptops and such, it is used with a large array of relatively new hardware (I am on a Dell d830 right now -- about a year old). Binary drivers? Fact of life. Without the nvidia driver I'd not use Linux. Sorry, the user experience matters.

This use model conflicts with the "no binary drivers" ivory tower mentality. Sorry, but under windows this stuff just works. If you accept that Linux is a serious desktop os, you'll have to live with the reality of binary drivers, lousy programmers, etc. While ext4 has some wonderful performance and behavior, and came claim to being "correct" as far as POSIX goes, it's a bit much to be a spec lawyer when usage models that work cease to do so.

I understand your point, and even agree that it is an app error by the spec. But this puts users in the situation of having their machines fail where they didn't use to. As soon as they move to ext4. Accurate explanations won't change that impression.