Comment 4 for bug 1357713

Doesn't ifupdown still bring up lo?

Excerpts from Martin Pitt's message of 2014-09-23 06:17:10 UTC:
> ubuntu-minimal depends on upstart and ifupdown, so supposedly you
> removed that. This is really not a supported configuration.
>
> As for upstart: Debian has a new essential package "init" which depends
> on systemd-sysv | upstart | sysvinit. We could decide to adopt that.
> Moving to init-system-helpers for that.
>
> As for ifupdown: ;Most desktops, phones, etc. use dynamic network
> configuration with NetworkManager, there is no essential need for
> ifupdown.
>
> But still, of course you can shoot yourself into the foot by randomly
> removing packages. So just don't do that then :-)
>
> ** Package changed: upstart (Ubuntu) => init-system-helpers (Ubuntu)
>
> ** Changed in: init-system-helpers (Ubuntu)
> Importance: Undecided => Low
>
> ** Changed in: init-system-helpers (Ubuntu)
> Status: New => Triaged
>
> ** Changed in: ifupdown (Ubuntu)
> Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Summary changed:
>
> - ifupdown and upstart can be removed
> + Use essential "init" package to ensure that an init system is present
>
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> Title:
> Use essential "init" package to ensure that an init system is present
>
> Status in “ifupdown” package in Ubuntu:
> Invalid
> Status in “init-system-helpers” package in Ubuntu:
> Triaged
>
> Bug description:
> I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 dev with ifupdown 0.7.48.1ubuntu4 and upstart
> 1.13.1-0ubuntu3 and currently it is possible to remove ifupdown and
> upstart as they are not essential packages or any essential/manual
> package does depend on them. Here is the output:
>
> root@ubuntu:/# apt-get remove ifupdown
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> ifupdown upstart
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> After this operation, 895 kB disk space will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
> Abort.
>
>
> As I know Ubuntu wants to change from upstart to systemd in the future so removing upstart may be fine but I'm wondering why ifupdown can be removed (wouldn't this remove the ability to create a network connection?).
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