Comment 114 for bug 518056

Hi Leandro!

On 2015-04-06 14:44, Leandro wrote:
> I think the "LC_TYPE" approach will solve much of the complains,
> because I think most people installing Ubuntu will be physically
> located in Brazil and will naturally choose the location as Brazil.
> If in that case the cedilla will be typed as we expect it, that will
> be fine.

With the latest change to language-selector, that's how it will work in 15.04.

> At the same time, when that does not happen, the fix will remain
> pretty complicated to explain, and forcing someone to change the
> time-zone or the display language (I understand those are the
> options) can be frustrating.

The time-zone part is a misconception.

The time zone location is only relevant in the installer. The installer does not have a separate window for setting "Regional Formats", i.e. things like date/time and number formats, currency symbol etc. Instead it 'guesses' the regional formats based on the selected time zone location. So if you select a Brazilian time zone location in the installer, you'll end up with an installation where the regional formats are Brazilian Portuguese.

If you don't, and if you don't either select Brazilian Portuguese as the language, there is no reason to change to another time zone afterwards. Instead you can open the Language Support GUI, install Portuguese, and then change either the language or *the regional formats* (or both) to Brazilian Portuguese.

(And as a last resort, if you don't want Brazilian Portuguese as the display language or the regional formats, you can instead generate the pt_BR.UTF-8 locale and edit ~/.profile.)

This, in itself, shouldn't be very complicated to explain. After all, it's reasonable that you need to do *something* to get the desired behavior, isn't it?

> ... when things do not work out as expected, I think people will
> start looking for solutions and still will find them only in this bug
> report, as the workaround will be very unatural.

Right, personally I think the biggest issue here is how to get the message out. People may end up at this bug report, with quite a few suggested workarounds. There is also Ask Ubuntu. I added an answer to

http://askubuntu.com/questions/363115

However, that's just one answer among a bunch of others, basically suggesting the same workarounds as have been mentioned in this report.

How are things working in Brazil? Does it exist any local adapted ISO file (e.g. a Brazilian remix)? Is there any local support forum, from where the word could be spread?

As regards pt_PT, we could make it work the same way as it does for pt_BR in the beginning of next development cycle. Then a few months will pass before the release of 15.10, and if - contrary to expectation - people don't like it, the change might be reverted before release.