Comment 107 for bug 518056

One more thing...

In the glory days of DR-DOS/MS-DOS, if I am not mistaken, there was no
keyboard setup specially made for Brazil regarding US International
keyboard. It was a setup for Latin languages, I.e., every country that has
a latin language was affected (French, portuguese, Italian...)

Regards

Calvo

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:39 Raphael Calvo <email address hidden> wrote:

> Gunnar,
>
> My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong....
> The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is
> because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope
> with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every
> single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it
> was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model.
>
> Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because
> they were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a
> similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some
> design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am
> especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a
> brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he
> found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be
> benefited from this fix.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Calvo
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <email address hidden>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro.
>>
>> As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in
>> comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç
>> irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the
>> changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US
>> international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I
>> assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian
>> users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in
>> Brazil.
>>
>> We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a
>> /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing
>> such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for
>> users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for
>> users living in Brazil.
>>
>> * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international
>> keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically
>> use some Portuguese keyboard layout?
>>
>> * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages
>> more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for
>> users living in Portugal (Europe)?
>>
>> The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and
>> pt_BR.
>>
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>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056
>>
>> Title:
>> cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
>>
>> Status in central project for keyboard configuration:
>> Confirmed
>> Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu:
>> Confirmed
>> Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu:
>> Fix Released
>> Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu:
>> New
>> Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu:
>> Confirmed
>>
>> Bug description:
>>
>> When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or
>> UK-international),
>> typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla.
>>
>> There is a workaround, which is editing the
>>
>> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules
>>
>> file and changing the line
>>
>> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale"
>> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa"
>>
>> to
>>
>> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale"
>> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en"
>>
>> (add the 'en' at the end).
>>
>> However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the
>> change,
>> and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file
>> again,
>> logout and login.
>>
>> For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is
>> always something
>> that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use
>> Ubuntu, because
>> they don't know what to do each time this happens.
>>
>> I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and
>> that would
>> be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for
>> the dead-key
>> options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as
>> US-deadkey-cedilla.
>>
>> This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French.
>>
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