[karmic] No 32x32 places icons in Humanity icon theme

[Jaroslav Šmíd]

Binary package hint: humanity-icon-theme

Should humanity be default icon theme in Karmic, it is needed that there are "real" 32x32 icons. Lots of users are not blind and don't have 3000x200px panels and those are likely to set 32x32 in nautilus/desktop. But what they get with humanity icon theme being default is just ugly blurred icons - especially "standard folders" (or whatever folders Documents, Music, .... are called) looks very blurry and this is just not acceptable for normal user - it makes you feel somehow uncomfortable when working on the computer. Also a lot of applications' icons in 32x32 directory of humanity icon theme look blurry, like they were just scaled down version of 48x48 icons - again - makes you feel sick. Look at windows - they have almost every single icon in every single commonly used size - from 16x16 to 256x256 - and almost all of them look nice, sharp and professional - only very few of them are blurry, because they are not just scaled-down versions, but they are made separately. This should really be on your TODO list for karmic.

[Jonian Guveli (jonian-guveli)]

Smaller icons are under way.

"Also a lot of applications' icons in 32x32 directory of humanity icon theme look blurry, like they were just scaled down version of 48x48 icons - again - makes you feel sick."

That is false. Every icon is redesigned in smaller sizes. Blurry look only the icons that don't have smaller sizes available. Please attach a screen-shot to support your report.

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

> That is false. Every icon is redesigned in smaller sizes. Blurry look only the icons that don't have smaller sizes available. Please attach a screen-shot to support your report.

Oh, sorry. It's nautilus what makes those 32x32 icons blurry. I will make bug report on that.

[Loïc Minier (lool)]

There are some places icons in 32x32 though:
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/gnome-desktop-config.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/gnome-ccdesktop.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/gnome-fs-directory.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/gnome-fs-desktop.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/other-desktop.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/inode-directory.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/gnome-folder.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/stock_folder.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/desktop.svg
/usr/share/icons/Humanity/places/32/gtk-directory.svg

Do we miss others?

[Vish (vish)]

Loic Minier,
 No , nothing more is required. We added a 32px folder after this report was filed. So , its already in you ppa

[Vish (vish)]

Fixed in humanity-icon-theme (0.4.1-0ubuntu1) karmic

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

This has not been fixed yet. Folder icons for documents, downloads, music, pictures, templates, public, videos are still without their 32x32px variants.

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

ping

[Vish (vish)]

Could you post the screenshot of the problem?

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

Why should I post screenshot? Take a look at humanity/places/48, there are icons like folder-documents.svg folder-music.svg, etc. There are no such icons in humanity/places/32 and 48x48 icons are used, resized and made look blurry.

[Vish (vish)]

@Jaroslav Šmíd:
We know what icons exist in the 48px folder. We would like to know where the 32px folders[music,documents,...] are bring used.

If you check the human theme the 32 px doesnt even have *any* 32px folders.
We have added the generic folders in 32px specifically for this bug report , this bug is fix released .
and dont see the need for specific folders, as the 48px folders will resize and wont be adding them unless we see there is some problem. Thanks!

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

C'mon. This bug report is for 32px places icons, not only generic folder. Icons are used e.g. in nautilus when default icon size is set to 66% or it is manualy set for specific folder. When 48px icons look blurry, because they are scaled down. If I took 10 minutes of my life to take already existing generic folder icon and added already existing emblems on it, would you include it in the theme, so I wouldn't do it in vain? I don't really see a reason why not to make them. Do you really thing that everyone is blind and want big 48x48 icons? Even in Microsoft they understand users' needs and add 32x32 icons to their os. Why? Because they want to make their users feel good when using the system ... looking on blurry icons just makes me feel sick. But hey, I know why you don't want add them - space on the CD is limited and having stupid dictionary on the CD is more important than having non-blurry icons in file manager.
You know what? I'm sick of reporting bugs when developers obviously doesn't want to solve them - why they even bother to have bugzilla.
Since the bug is not solved and you do not want to get it fixed, I'm marking it as WONTFIX.

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

What a pitty, cannot mark it as WONTFIX

[Vish (vish)]

Jaroslav Šmíd ,
The right status of this bug is 'incomplete' . Kindly provide a screenshot which shows the "blurriness".

[Danielle Foré (danrabbit)]

Jaroslav:

I'm sorry you are so upset. This bug has been marked as Confirmed. However, it is not of critical importance and even if we fixed it at this very moment, it would NOT go into Karmic (which is way past artwork freeze).

We are working to scale EVERY icon in EVERY size. But please be patient with us on this. If you would like to contribute to the project, you are more than welcome. As long as your work is passable, we'll merge it in. But, getting angry about this won't do you any good.

What I believe that mac_v's intention was to find out just how important scaling these icons are. Right now, we're making sure we solve everything within the default behavior before we move onto things that are not within the default.

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

mac_v: God, you are even lazy to to click "-" button in nautilus toolbar.
Here you go, to make you feel important. You are one of those _CENSORED_ why Windows users say Linux community is so _CENSORED_

[Jaroslav Šmíd (jardasmid-gmail)]

Daniel Fore: Finally someone normal :-) But what I don't agree with is this:

> would NOT go into Karmic (which is way past artwork freeze)

I think it could make it as this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsplash/+bug/441210) made it there too few hours ago.

BTW: Isn't mac_v British, people from there behave like him on daily basis (pls. take this as a small joke to make mac_v angry)

[Danielle Foré (danrabbit)]

Jaroslav:

Please respect the CoC. We are not your enemies here. What you have to realize is that this theme is a community effort. We are not being paid by Canonical to work in this theme. So, if it is our choosing, we don't have to do anything. You are making a request, please treat it as such and respect our requests.

No, this would not make it into Karmic. It's been made very clear that unless it is a very critical bug there will not be any more updates to Humanity in Karmic until after release. In addition, this will not affect the majority of users who will stay with the 48px icons.

I don't understand why you are so upset about this. Two of Three developers have already told you it will be fixed and the one developer who was willing to fix it right now just wanted some clarification so that he could understand the problem.

[Vish (vish)]

 Jaroslav Šmíd ,
You do realize that the very first comment was from a member of the team asking for a screenshot. The incomplete bug report is the cause of the delay. Hence it has gone past the artwork deadline for Karmic.
As for "my laziness" , i did check before requesting the screenshot . In my hardware the blurriness is not present.

And to fix a bug for a reporter who doesnt provide information as requested or does not maintain the CoC , would not be the ideal way to spend our spare time.
Being polite on bug reports [or in general, in life] will help you get things done quicker. Your attitude is evident in your xsplash report and the blog page you have linked in the bug report.

In future while reporting bugs , to maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ . Bug reports are handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so kindly bear this in mind. Thanks!

[Vish (vish)]

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. This particular bug is a duplicate of bug 474127, so it is being marked as such. Please look at the other bug report to see if there is any missing information that you can provide, or to see if there is a workaround for the bug. Additionally, any further discussion regarding the bug should occur in the other report. Please continue to report any other bugs you may find.

I realize this bug was reported earlier , But the new bug has the all the relevant screenshots. And points out another missing icon.