please drop gnome-power-manager dependency

[Martin Pitt]

Binary package hint: gnome-session

gnome-session currently depends on gnome-power-manager, which seems a bit odd. Since g-p-m is fairly useless on desktop machines, it should be uninstallable without breaking half of gnome.

Would it be possible to drop that to a Recommends: or Suggests:?

Thank you!

[Sebastien Bacher (seb128)]

Recommends looks about right for it, it's pretty useful since it provides suspend and hibernate

[Peter Clifton (pcjc2)]

Doesn't this cause lockups with the logout dialog if g-p-m is missing?

I've just spent some time chasing a bug (which I'm about to file) where my logout dialog hangs X11 (with a screen-shot its about to fade) for about 50 seconds whilst it tries to find g-p-m on its old DBUS name. (Gutsy). The new g-p-m has a different DBUS-path, so that needs changing.

I'm going to file a bug against gnome-session regarding the change of path in g-p-m, and hopefully just add my other "bug" as a comment here:

gnome-session should not hang trying to communicate with g-p-m !!

PS - from the app (gnome-session-save)'s point of view, the hangup is seen whilst accessing /tmp/.ICE-unix/{session_manager_pid}. A strace of gnome-session identifies the real hangup.

[Cyr4x (marcinwlo)]

Yes! I've got the same issue. Hangup for about a minute.

[erthourcery (gregg-opensourcery)]

The forced installation of gnome-power-manager negatively impacts LTSP terminals, and really has no place in that environment...

ie, syslog entries:
Nov 10 11:43:53 ... gnome-power-manager: (...) This program cannot start until you start the dbus system service. It is <b>strongly recommended</b> you reboot your computer after starting this service.

Service had been restarted a long time ago...can we at least make gnome-power-manager a "suggests" instead of "require"?

[Martin Pitt (pitti)]

When I do "killall gnome-power-manager" and thus g-p-m is not running, the panel notices this and presents the shutdown dialog without suspend/resume (shutdown/reboot is done through consolekit). Restarting the panel after this also works without any delays.

[Martin Pitt (pitti)]

In Intrepid, gnome-session does not depend on gnome-power-manager any more. It's just the *-desktop metapackages which pull it in, which seems correct to me.