Comment 6 for bug 35043

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Alexander van Loon (avanloon) wrote :

Seems that no one replied to my mail to the mailing list yet, and that the discussion is going to take place here, oh well.

I think that most people don't want it because they aren't used to Linux, after all they're used to Windows which doesn't have the session saving feature. IMO beginners opening 15 Firefox instances should learn that they shouldn't do such things. Manu and Athurva, you guys both talk about what behavior users expect. But is the behavior what users expect the best behavior?

When I first started using Linux I thought the session saving feature was great. When I shut down my computer I leave Epiphany (with about 6 websites opened in tabs), Gaim and XChat-GNOME running with session saving enabled. When I start up my PC and log in again, I can begin where I stopped immediatly, saves me a lot of time and makes me more productive. IMO users should be educated on useful features like these, you shouldn't hide it in the Preferences menu for them. If you hide it in some obscure place in the Preferences menu, most users will never know the option exists. No wonder that in the end nobody will care about session saving then.

Athurva, I agree with you. I think a good compromise would be modifying the logout dialog.

I remember that the previous logout dialog in Breezy (which was not modified by Ubuntu, but was the GNOME default) had a check box so you could enable/disable session saving.
IMO this checkbox should return in the new logout dialog. Maybe it should be unchecked by default because people don't expect session saving, as you two think.

If the user enables it though, the logout dialog should remember the preference (because when I was still using Breezy, I had to check the checkbox in the logout dialog everytime, because it didn't remember and was always unchecked by default).

I hope this can be included in the new logout dialog. however I fear that it might not happen because the mailing list posts about the new logout dialog constantly talk about 'simplification'. Simplification over features, that's probably the new trend.